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Some people tend to forget that it IS Harry's story.
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So very true. Thats why i thought id add its Harry Potter and. Not Ron Weasley and.
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This is Harry's story, but Ron is a big part of it. Ron and Hermione were made prefects when Harry wasn't (I know that Dumbledore had a good reason). I think that Harry actually doesn't have as good of a chance at becoming captain. About all he knows about quidditch is from personal experience, Quidditch Through the Ages, and the book about the Chudley Cannons, (I guess the world cup, too...). Other people have been playing most of their life. Ron played with his brothers back at the Burrow, and even Ginny snuck out and rode their brooms behind their backs. If Katie Bell is indeed a 7th year, she would be the natural choice for it. She also has probably seen a few captains and knows what style of leading works the best. She's had Angelina, Wood, and possibly someone before wood... Harry has only seen Wood, and a few matches with Angelina (that majority of the time, she was just upset at him for getting detention with Umbridge).
I don't think that Ron would be a good choice for the simple fact that he couldn't even play when people were watching him for a while. Everyone would have to watch him, and would be technically looking up to him if he were a captain. I don't think that he'd do so well under pressure. Ginny, on the other hand I think would make a great captain. (Maybe I'm biased because I like Ginny's character so much ![]()
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Nobody is more important than Harry. I see Harry being captain. 99% of fans would be over joyed after he missed out on being prefect.
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I am sorry, I can not see the logic of your reasoning.
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As for Ron or Ginny, there is absolutely no chance for either of them to become a captain IF Harry is still playing. The only valid speculation against Harry's captaincy is that PERHAPS JKR will not let him play at all for some reason that we DO NOT YET KNOW. Because all reasons that we do know will not work.
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But I don't think that someone needs to be a star player in order to be the captain. I don't recall that Angelina was every a star , yet she was the captain last year. She might be the captain just because she is the oldest player. I think her reliability actually would make her a great candidate. Harry was not really reliable. He missed half of the matches his fifth year (granted that wasn't entirely his fault). He also missed the tryouts at the beginning of the year. He also fell off of his broom once, and missed another match because he was saving the world (his first year?). I know these aren't his fault, but if an outsider had to evaluate Harry's quidditch career, these things look fishy. also, ikuko , I'm probably not a very good debater, because I tend to try to explain myself so much that I end up contradicting myself ![]()
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I don't think it'll be Harry. He's got enough going on without being a Captain. But If he is Captain, Malfoy will be Captain of Slytherin's team.
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![]() As to Angelina, I have a great respect for the girl. She has charizma. She was the one to tame one of the twins, and to try for the championate, and the way she bullied the team - you have to admire her. Katie has never shown so much individuality. Again, as I said in many posts, Katie MIGHT become a captain - if Harry is not playing. All the "failures" of Harry are given to us through his own eyes, and magnified because of that. No one blamed Lynch for falling off the broom during the Cup, and there was no dementors on the field. Missing games? True. But we only know when Harry misses. We have no idea when others miss a game for whatever reason. We were told that there is no substitute seeker (book 1), perhaps it implies that there are substitutes for other players. Oliver is a substitute now, isn't he?
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Harry's gonna be playing quidditch anyways. Why not be captain? Quiditch is like an outlet for him. It helps him deal with the stress.
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The correlation between "having fun" and being quidditch captain makes no sense. So far, we know that the duties of the quidditch captain are:
1. picking the players 2. managing/planning/arranging practice 3. and we assume that they manage/oversee the game What is "fun" about any of these things? Yes, Cedric and Charlie were seekers and captains of their teams, but that doesn't necessarily mean that is the usual case for all teams. We don't really know how Hufflepuff and Gryffindor teams were run during their tenures. For example, if a quidditch team is one that is not a big scoring team, and basically relies on their seeker to catch the snitch before the other team can score a lot of points (see Bulgaria), then it would make great sense that the seeker is the captain. But for a team that is more about scoring a lot of points (see Ireland, Slytherin), then the seeker is probably not the best choice for the captainship. Gryffindor, during Harry's time has been a team that catches the snitch early, but also puts up a lot of points as well, making them an "all-around" team. If that's the case, then there is really no difference if Harry or Katie is the captain. Also there is really no correlation between skill/talent and your ability to manage the 3 tasks mentioned above. Whether Katie is only a decent player or not really doesn't mean she can't be as good a captain as Harry. In fact, you find in many sports that the least talented people make the best coaches, and from what we understand about the role of a captain, they are much similar to coaches than "star players." Also I think you are underestimating the importance of the 2 games that Harry missed in his 5th year. This is the quidditch team in HBP as we know it: Chasers: Katie & Ginny Seeker: Harry Keeper: Ron Beaters: Sloper & Kirke Harry has only played with one of those individuals in a game. If Harry is captain, we must assume that he needs to choose the last chaser. WOuldn't Katie be in a better position to choose the chaser considering that there needs to be some cohesion at that position? Also if Sloper & Kirke are going to be replaced as beaters, wouldn't it be better that their replacements are chosen by someone who actually has a better grasp on their strengths & weaknesses? And Katie has not be able to show leadership skills because Harry has not interacted with her much off the quidditch pitch. Like Harry is the leader of his Gryffindor year, for all we know Katie is the leader of her year. We really don't know because we get a strong Harry bias. Bottom line is that there isn't a lot of evidence that says Harry or Katie would be much better than the other as the captain. But I think the factors that: 1. Katie is a year older (could we all agree that if all things were equal, the older player would get the nod?) 2. Katie has a firmer grasp on the strengths/weaknesses of the returning players Means that she gets the slight edge over Harry in this. |
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Harry has also shown that he is a great leader with the DA. He looked forward to the DA meetings. He enjoyed planning lessons and thinking about what he was gonna do. Why wouldn't he enjoy beong quidditch captain?
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Parselpuff, you got tons of good points on why harry could be captain but DD might take the same direction he did with not making harry a prefect. Harry just might have to much on his plate to be captain of the team as he is going to save the wizarding world and get good grades at the same time. I think it would be to much of a burden on his shoulders on top of everything else
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I think it would be a real help to him. Harry enjoys Quidditch and he enjoys the strategy of quidditch. Like I said before I think it would be good for him. It will hep him take his mind off things.
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Is Katie in the seventh year or did she graduated?
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I'd say Harry. As for who the new beaters might be. No idea.
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i dont think harry will become the captain because of all the work he will have to be doing with the order and the ministry(check my other threads) but it seems like ron is always getting a lucky break(prefect) so it could be him.
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i think it would be cruel not to make harry captain. dumbledor already didnt make him a prefect (because of emotional stuff) but still harry has shown he is (pretty much) a mature person who can handle almost anything. being captain of a quidditch team cant be any harder than wrestling trolls and stuff...
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