Final Fantasy

[mexicant]

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I guess another thing to do is draw like crazy and set the most powerful magics with your people. I always had 99 of every magic possible on every character just for that purpose.

[SoulOfRebirth]

There are apparently numerous ways to "break" FFVIII's system. I never mastered them (got stuck somewhere, can't remember where), but apparently if you know how to manipulate the systme FFVIII becomes a complete cakewalk. Supposedly the trick is to stay at a low level (enemy levels scale to your own, so just keep from getting experience by running from battles). It's also possible to junction magic to your stats, which makes you a lot more powerful. And I think there's also a way to refine items from magic, or the other way around? Something like that.

It's been forever since I went through FFVIII, and I pretty much relied on GF-spamming through the majority of the game (took me forever to figure out the Draw system), so I'm not really much help.

[mexicant]

I only ever used GFs so I could see what it looked like. Other than that, it was brute force. I junctioned everything.

[jammi567]

Junctioning is the way you are supposed to to go anyway. So, you know...

But if you really wish to gain the benifits of junctioning, wait until you can get to the end of Disk 3, and have totsl control of the Ragnorock. Then go to the Islands of Heaven and Hell, and draw the most powerful spells from the game and junction them to your stats. They also restock really quickly, which is an added benifit.

[Schlubalybub]

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Thing is, because of my saves, I would have to level up in Lunatic Pandora, cos you can't leave while Adel has Rinoa- and Lunatic Pandora isn't exactly the nicest place to level up

[Yuna_Leonhart]

The best thing is to junction your G.F.s to your three characters and junction your magic. You should always watch how the certain stat you chose will change (Ultima is always the highest; I'd recommend that for attack, if you have that spell) and always chose the highest. Than look for your commands, I'd recommend Siren's Treatment, Leviathan's Recover and Alexander's Revive. If you don't have them, use the healing spells and items.

Now for the fight. One should constantly heal Rinoa and cast Shell on her (do the same for your team). Don't use your G.F.s, otherwise you would hurt Rinoa, too. You can use spells but only single target ones. So, better use physical attacks and your limits. I think the easiest way would be Squall's Lionheart, but then again you might not have it and I'm not sure if it was single target or not.


Hope, I could help with the little instructions.

[Schlubalybub]

Well, I've discovered that Rinoa has just over 7000 hp, so you can get away with GF/multiple target spells for one go, then you have to heal Rinoa. Problem is I don't have many Shell spells/stones, so every time I hit Adel I she heals herself with Rinoa. I have used Cactuar on her, but it doesn't last for long what with the healing Rinoa and all that...

Oh, and I'm not quite strong enough to train up on the Islands of Heaven and Hell, I get killed, but at least I know where they are now- I found them the other day

Unfortunately, cos I saved stupidly, I;ll have to go back to the end of disc 2 to get to train there, which means getting Odin and Cactuar again, and having to fight Edea.

[SoulOfRebirth]

I think you're at the same part I got stuck at. I don't remember ever getting past there. And if I did, the game froze or some such.

A good way to cheat is to keep Zell at low health and just spam his limit break repeatedly. If you choose the easiest combo you can keep the attacks going for a LONG time.

But yeah, fighting Adel owned me hard. No GFs = fail for me.

[Schlubalybub]

I don't always get a limit break when Zell is low HP, and it's difficult when she keeps killing him

I get what you're saying though- and for an opening to the disc battle, it's unbelievably difficult

[jammi567]

Any boss in that game is a total and utter push over, just so long as you junction correctly.

The game you really have to be carful in is XII. That game has so few save points comparactivly, it's unbelievable. And I had to level grind in almost every place, and even then, I still got owned a lot (especially the second Cid battle, where he summons that summon creature (can't remember what they'recalled now).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6ut4...om=PL&index=30

[SoulOfRebirth]

(especially the second Cid battle, where he summons that summon creature (can't remember what they'recalled now).

Summons = Espers. The specific one you're thinking of is Famfrit, the Darkening Cloud. Yes, that was a very annoying fight. All the Esper fights were ridiculously hard, compared to the other bosses. Mateus the Corrupt (in the Stilshrine of Miriam) was particularly evil.

Out of boredom I'm replaying FFX again. At the Spherimorph now. I don't remember FFX being nearly so easy.

[jammi567]

Youch, hot off the press from the E3 gaming show are a few new trailers for Final Fantasy that I definatly recoomen watching.

Firstly,we have the English trailer for Dissidia, with actual English voices in it!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gR0yuMlZrQ

Next up is yet another trailer for XIII. But wait, what's this I hear, could that be English voices!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJkjqS1PY0Q

And finally (for the moment), there's a trailer for Final Fantasy XIV, which is another MMORPG, so people will automatically hate it reguardless:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH0BM_gEIiE

For Dissidia, I suppose the voices so far are alright. Warrior of Light and Firion, however, sound way too similar to each other, and Cloud is just as emotionless as ever.

As for XIII, I just wish Sazh Katzroy (the black guy) didn't sound so steriotypically....black, if you get my drift. Other then that, the rest of the cast sounded quite good.

XIV, on the other hand, looks quite fun. I just wish I didn't have to pay a monthly subsription fee to play it, though.

[mexicant]

Ooooh, Dissidia looks so good!!! That is one I will definitely need to get when it comes out. Some of the voices do sound too similar, but oh well. At least while playing we can tell the differences in the characters.

I didn't even bother with XIV; I don't do MMORPGs because it just isn't practical to me to spend so much a month and not know if or when I'll have a chance to play.

The trailer for XIII looks kind of interesting. I'm not sure I'm quite looking forward to it yet, but it seems promising, I guess. It doesn't really grip me. It's the first time I've seen one for it as I hadn't anticipated getting it, but my husband is excited for it to come out on the 360 (I guess they said they were aiming for a spring 2010 release?) so I may as well know a little about it, too.

[SoulOfRebirth]

One day after its announcement, I am already about a thousand times more hyped for FFXIV than I am for FFXIII. Sad.

XIII looks like the most uninspired and generic entry in the series yet. If it didn't have FF in the name I wouldn't even be able to tell it's supposed to be an FF game; it looks like any generic futuristic JRPG.

[FleurDeLaPointe]

Originally Posted by SoulOfRebirth

One day after its announcement, I am already about a thousand times more hyped for FFXIV than I am for FFXIII. Sad.

XIII looks like the most uninspired and generic entry in the series yet. If it didn't have FF in the name I wouldn't even be able to tell it's supposed to be an FF game; it looks like any generic futuristic JRPG.

The thing is that it's lost a lot of it's defining traits of being a FF game. I.e. sombrero wearing Black Mages, horn sporting summoners, or loose representations of thereof. I haven't played FF12, which looks generic to me but at LEAST has the theme of being part of the Ivalice world (one of which seems to really deteriorate in quality and scope with every handheld installment of the collection they add), but I agree FF13 might as well be part of the wonderful game called Tales of Xeno-Infinite-UnOdyssey. I guess until they actually reveal how each character (or even which characters) are remotely similar to previous traditional classes, we are left to assume the only real thing to look forward to is weird summons (which are taking up far too much of a focus in the games since FF6 IMHO) and the battle system.

[SoulOfRebirth]

I thought XII had a pretty unique style about it. Kind of a weird marriage of medieval Europe, Turkish art, and Star Wars. It looked generic until I played it, and came to realize there's nothing quite like it, even in the FF series.

XIII, on the other hand, looks like...I don't know. Xenosaga, or Phantasy Star, but lamer.

[jammi567]

I agree with what you say there. I'm more excited for XIII's spinoff's then for the main game. And like I entioned earlier in the thread, the resistance story has been so manytimes, it's unbelievable.

[mexicant]

I can only hope that what the trailer is presenting and the actual game turn out to be different things. I rather liked FFXII and I wasn't impressed with the trailers for it before it came out - it took me borrowing it from a friend for me to even give it a chance and I ended up putting ridiculous amounts of hours into it.

Still, I'm looking forward to Dissidia the most right now since Versus isn't slated to come out on anything but the PS3 as of yet.

[jammi567]

Only a couple of months to go before Dissidia's release in America. Why can't they release the game at the same ime in both the USA and Europe? I mean, it isn't like they've got to translate anything!

Unless they add in even more content, like the secret Aeons in X.

[SoulOfRebirth]

Maybe it has something to do with the complications of releasing to multiple countries at once? "Europe" in the game world is bigger than just the UK, after all. Doesn't it include Australia and New Zealand in addition to the European countries? Maybe that has something to do with it. I actually have no idea, though I'm sure there must be a pretty good reason.