Gen. Article - A Call to End the Shipping Wars

[blaqlives]

Discussion of the Madam Puddifoot's article A Call to End the Shipping Wars by Seren Quirke.

[IrishPhoenix711]

I agreed with this editorial. I think that all the fighting needs to stop, and that we can like who we want to like.

Theoretical romantic discussion is okay though. Talking about the reasons we predict a H/Hr romance as opposed to a H/G, and such. It's fun. I do admit I can get frustrated when people don't see things the way I see them. But I would never flame. I like to demonstrate my opinion in logical fashion, and if someone reads that with an open mind I'm fine. Even if they still think I'm wrong. [I will laugh last! ::evil laugh::]

Of course, if someone ever came up to me and started trying to convince me that Draco/Harry will one day be canon, I might actually hit them for being a moron. Liking the idea of two characters together is cool, but it can be frustrating when they act like a couple that the majority of HP fans know is never going to happen is canon rather than personal preference.

Thanks for this editorial, I heartily agree with your topic! I love theorizing who will end up with who, and debating (politely and logically) different ships. But people who flame or insult people simply because they don't support the same ship that they do are ridiculous! These stories are just that, stories. (Although in my opinion they are some of the best pieces of literature ever written) they are still just stories. And couple will be determined by JKR's (genius ) mind. So by all means, continue the debates! Just please keep them civil!

I agree with this article. My OTP is Harry/Draco and I get very annoyed when homophobic people start having a go at me about it, its hurtful that they are trying to stop me liking the things I like. People need to tolerate the themes of other people's ships (het/slash/incest/underage etc) even if they do not agree with it themselves, because people can match whichever pairs they like, regardless of age and gender etc.

[Tzigone]

I get very annoyed when anyone who doesn't like a particular slash ship is labeled "homophobic."

[fllama]

Hear hear! (if I was bothered to find a smilie with a beer in his hand, it would go here)

I can honestly say that I have never seen this Darker Side of the HP fanon. I never knew peoples discussed and argued their ships with such vigour and rudeness. All of that is pretty much news to me. Nonetheless, I liked this article and totally agreed with it - it was very well written

[Minas Tirith]

I agree! i mean, there are so many people who support different ships for different reasons, and this article shows that we shouldnt (and, can't) push other people into believing what you believe, so even if you have all the evidence behind you, and you believe that your ship will actually happen in the books, that doesnt meant that every person has to believe it. i think this was a really good article!

[sparrowgurl334]

I totally agree with you! The shipping wars are way to nasty, and most of them won't come true anyways. If you don't agree with something, just respect the other persons choice, rather than degrade them.

I very much agree with the author's sentiments, and think this was a wonderfuly written article. Yay for polite debate! Otherwise, whats the fun in shipping?

Erhm... i see that you are not into shipping !!! [conclusion] But hey... let people ship if they like to... Its not your problem.. if people want to have shipping wars with angs and stuff, let them... but hey friends dont let this end like the Godfather!

[Aebhel]

The thing that bugs me about shipping is how SURE people are that they're right. I mean, I've had people say that they're going to burn their books, or tear the chapter out, or whatever, if they don't get the ship they want. That's really bizarre, in my opinion. I mean, yeah, I have my theories about who's going to get together, but if I turn out to be wrong, it's because I read the clues wrong, not because JKR made a mistake.

And I think the thing that gets irritating is if someone innocently posts some evidence for a certain ship, and people from the opposing ship jump down their throat, Not everyone who ships likes to get involved in battles about it.

[Ginnybee]

I know what you mean. I mean I would strongly dislike if say Harry and Hermione got together in Canon, but I would still love the books regardless. But I think some people LIKE jumping down throats, it's aggravating though.

I recieved the following owl: GO TO ****ING HELL, YOU ****ING PLUTONIC *****!!!!! i'M J.K ROWLING, YOU CAN'T CONTRADICT MY ****ING WORDS!!!!! YOU ****ING YANKEE ******!!!!!! It's stuff like that that I hate!

[Double_Trouble]

Every thing you said makes sense. I'm a big RL/NT and I kind of get ensaulted sometimes because people think that is wrong because Remus is older than her but we don't know that. I could rattle off a lot of reasons why it makes sense but this is about shipper wars. I have heard about a lot of shipper wars which is why I stick to smaller ships. I also think that a really good fanfiction author can make any ship look flawless. I got in to the AD/MM ship just because I read one really good fic. Truthfully I've been trying not to like that one. Anyway great article!!

I think it is really sad that some people just can't have a civil discussion. Personally I think people put way too much emphasis on this whole "who will end up with who" anyway and I think the main focus on the books is (and should be) the upcoming war in the wizarding world and not about Harry's (or whoever's) girlfriend Okay it is nice to have a bit of romance in the books but hey, people just seem to put a bit too much importance on that for my liking.

My guess is that probably Ron and Hermione will end up together (from the way I interpret some scenes in the books), but well that's it, if not, that's fine too, I don't think it will play a big role for the story anyway. I don't know (and honestly don't care that much)who'll be Harry's girlfriend, and I daresay he probably has far more important matters to deal with.

And after all, the whole thing is FICTION, it really amuses me sometimes how vigourously some people argue about some things, like "The only possible pairing is R/Hr because...", I mean come on, there are more serious issues in our world to worry about than that. Don't get me wrong, I personally love to discuss such stuff with my friends occasionally, but there are people who seem to take the whole thing way too serious. There are enough conflicts in the world without people jumping at each other's throats because of such petty arguments. Reading Harry Potter books is supposed to be fun, not to create any animosity between fans.

I think some people really ought to learn how to respect others and other people's opinions. Even if you don't agree with somebody's ideas, and even find them a bit weird, that's no reason to go all 'Oh my you're such a retard' or 'You are sooooo sick' Well best one can do with such people is to ignore them.

[plinker]

Please, read my post in "Who does Herminoe Love" and I think you'll see why all this is just a waste of words at this time! We have to wait for it and maybe it may never happen at all, who really knows?

I TOTALLY 100% agree with this article!
I've never read any of the Fanfiction stuff or chatted with anyone about shipping but I've read a lot of editorials on the matter and just love saying to myself on some occasions "What are they thinking?!?! That would NEVER happen!" but i would never say to someone how dare you think that?!?!?! Whether I agree with it or not, it's their opinion and I know it is. I really wish people would stop with all the fighting beause it's extremely pointless just like the author of this editorial is saying.

[Yajirobei]

Well.....
Maybe some of You will have a fun of me, but when i dont start to read editorials about shipping and comments on forums, i never knows, that is something like HP shipping..... well, i have my thoughts (i think Harry will be with Ginny, and Ron with Hermione), but never imagined that some people would try to almost kill each other, 'cause they are not shipping our OTP! It is very silly for me..... Well i hope that H/g will became true, but if it will not, i will not be angry, or depressed - all this characters belongs to JKR, and if she wants H/HR ship, it will be fine; if she wants H/G - it will be fine too (yeah, much more than fine ), or if she wants Harry alone- that it will be fine too.
She the boss, im a reader - so i can only predicted or hoped for something, not demand. I have read somewhere that some peple declared themselves to burnt their HP books, if their ship will not came up to. I was shocked!
Well i love read editorials about shipping or fanfictions, but i am not that desperate to burnt books! I only warns those who thought about it:

When people start to burnt books, it ends to burnt people.
(Hitler and Nazi and St. Inquisition also start to burnt books....)
Well, PEACE, people

[hgrwfan]

Here Here.......I think you are 100% correct in what you are saying. People get too caught up in their own opinions. I think though that the rudeness definitely extends far beyond just shipping. I have read posts as I am sure all of us have where people have been downright disrespectful to other peoples opinions and thoughts.

[tabithasnape]

From Tzigone Second Year: I get very annoyed when anyone who doesn't like a particular slash ship is labeled "homophobic

Thank you Tzigone. I would also like to say that Just because I don't think Homosexuality is morally right, doesn't mean I'm afraid of you, or that I'll shun you or something. You have just as much rights to good things as anybody.

[Amelda Bugsbane]

I've shipped for couples in T.V. shows before...I mean actively shipped...and the cat fights that break out just scare me. I've only taken part in one shipper war, and that was a light-hearted thing with representatives from every ship doing presentations. The outcome was a lot of fun with some rather animated cheering from the sidelines when our champions were doing well.

When it comes to HP, I know full well that even the most vociferous of shippers from my previous shipping experiences couldn't compare, so I keep my opinions to myself and stay away from shipper threads.

I think its sad that people can't talk about their own personal opinions (whether its ever likely to happen or not) without being worried that somebody is going to threaten them with eternal damnation.

This is a very good editorial, and I agree wholeheartedly...unfortunately, some people don't let any amount of reasoning get in the way of a good old-fashioned flame.