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Old December 17th, 2004, 1:47 am
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holly- I don't think that snape's a vamp. Wasn't he outside in the DAYLIGHT at some point in the one of the books (I'm not talking about his memory)
Did anyone catch Room of Doom on the Maurauder's map in the PoA movie? (another foreshadowing of Death or Devastation?)



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Old December 17th, 2004, 1:53 am
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holly- I don't think that snape's a vamp. Wasn't he outside in the DAYLIGHT at some point in the one of the books (I'm not talking about his memory)
Did anyone catch Room of Doom on the Maurauder's map in the PoA movie?
In the Muggle Studies section there is a thread called "The Marauders Map's Room of Requirement in POA" which says something about that.


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Old December 17th, 2004, 1:54 am
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and...I didn't see it
So...do you believe the Snape/vamp theory?
wells...gots ta go!



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Old December 17th, 2004, 1:55 am
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Yeah I just saw it before I got your owl.


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Old December 17th, 2004, 1:57 am
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Wasn't he outside in the DAYLIGHT at some point in the one of the books
I'm not 100% sure, but when he's outside, he usually seems to be in the shade. And he's always COMPLETELY covered no matter the season.


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Old December 17th, 2004, 1:59 am
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What about in SS at the quidditch pitch. I don't remember about the book but in the movie he was in broad daylight.


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Old December 17th, 2004, 2:01 am
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I completely missed "Room of Doom". Which part is that in?

Well, as Jo says, there are certain things (and we don't know how many) in the third film that foreshadow things to come in the books. I know she's said before that PoA is her favorite of the three films. Perhaps this is why?

What we have to keep in mind is that the filmmakers know NOTHING more about what is to come in the next books than we do. Any hints, be they good ones or misleading ones, are placed there entirely unknowingly.

Did Jo ever mention anything about hints in the first two films? I don't recall....

I think it is safe to assume that the hints that she is referring to in the film are not in the books. She seems amazed by the fact that they are in the film, as though the filmmakers read her mind. I don't know, something about the way she said it just made me think they are hints she herself has not given us.


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Old December 17th, 2004, 2:03 am
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What about in SS at the quidditch pitch. I don't remember about the book but in the movie he was in broad daylight.
The box with the teachers seemed to be shaded to me.


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Old December 17th, 2004, 2:05 am
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Oh, well I havent seen the movie in a while.


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Old December 17th, 2004, 2:05 am
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About the Snape-vampire theory.... My friends and I have discussed this in our--*ahem*--Harry Potter reading club--and we did mention the daylight thing. However, Hogwarts is on very magical grounds. There are certain things that work differently on Hogwarts grounds than in other areas, due to "all the magic in the air", I think they've said, or spells that have been specifically cast there. (Think electronics, or Apparating.) Maybe something about the air around Hogwarts is safe for vampires, whatever time of day. Granted, if Snape were a vampire, he would probably prefer the darkness, and it is true that we rarely see him outside in the light, although it has happened. I'm just saying, it could be possible.


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Old December 17th, 2004, 2:07 am
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What about when he is walking around the grounds after he is bitten by Fluffy. He was not shaded then.


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Old December 17th, 2004, 2:12 am
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As I stated, I know he has been out in the daylight. We see that in the films, and I know that somewhere it is mentioned in the books. Doesn't he referee a game at one point? But the reason I said he probably prefers the darkness either way is that if he IS a vampire, he's just more used to it. Probably any sunlight, whether in a location where it is okay for him or not, makes him slightly uncomfortable.

I don't really know whether to believe that Snape is a vampire or not, but there do seem to be a good deal of hints pointing that way. I seem to remember somebody a few months ago pointing out that, after Lupin's return to class (the one after Snape took over and made them all study werewolves), Lupin assigned the class to study vampires, as a sort of revenge. I will never remember who said it, but it's on this web site somewhere.


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Old December 17th, 2004, 2:40 am
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Sorry my computer is slow sometimes and i did not see your post until after i typed my last post.


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Old December 17th, 2004, 2:47 am
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Oh, I see...perfectly all right. I wondered how you could have failed to miss that.


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Old December 17th, 2004, 2:52 am
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Well in book 3 (and in the movie) it was mentioned that Lupin took potions to control the worst of the werewolf traits (like attacking). So it wouldn't be beyond the realm of possibility that Snape has concocted himself a potion to overcome some of his Vampire traits (like aversion to direct sunlight and homicidal blood sucking).

If Harry finds a stash of blood-flavored lollipops in Snapes desk, THEN we'll know that we're onto something.



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Old December 17th, 2004, 6:40 am
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I don't think she'll become a werewolf but MAYBE she's Lupin's daughter? Maybe she was adopted by the Grangers. If she's Lupin's daughter that would explain why he responded to her.
I really doubt this. The only way to become a werewolf is to be bitten by one. There is not much more to Hermione's family (they are just boring dentists JK describes) so I doubt any secrets will come out. The focus of a wizarding family has been shown through the Weasley's.
Hermione I believe knew about the call the same way she knows everything. BOOKS!! It would not be to hard to trick a werewolf I'd imagine as they would not be the most intelligent of creatures.

I don't think we have learnt yet who bit Lupin have we?


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Old December 17th, 2004, 6:55 am
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I wasn't saying she's a werewolf because Lupin's her father. I'm saying if she's a blood relative, he may have responded to her for a reason.


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Old December 17th, 2004, 1:56 pm
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Old December 17th, 2004, 10:05 pm
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of course they can as they highlight key things and hints for the viewer


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Old December 17th, 2004, 10:17 pm
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*ahem* SNAPE IS NOT A VAMPIRE. Jkr has confirmed that Snape is most definately NOT a vampire. Anyway...

I think the Ron and Hermione romamce was a huge clue. Obviously Ron and Hermione are going to be together in the last 2 books.

I'm also very surprised that nobody thought the scene when Snape jumped in front of Harry, Hermione, and Ron and protected them from the Werewolf!Lupin was a clue to what's going to happen in the last 2 books. I think that's probably the hugest clue in the whole movie! (Well, besides the Ron and Hermione romance :P).


 
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