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Old January 14th, 2003, 1:32 am
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Maurder Map in PS and CoS...

If fred and George had it in the first books, then they could see Voldie, the Riddle´s rebirth, and even Sirius and Pettigrew.

Do they hide it? Are they with Dumb (or Voldie)? Then?


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Old January 14th, 2003, 1:46 am
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How could they see Voldemort? He's sharing a body with Quirrel, and we have no way of knowing if the Marauder's Map shows that relationship.

Although that is a good point about Pettigrew...they SHOULD have seen him walking around with Percy before Ron showed up. Maybe they're just not that observant.


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Old January 14th, 2003, 1:54 am
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I think Fred and George have had the map for awhile, and they don't need to even look at it anymore. I think they say something to this effect when they "bequeath" it to Harry, i.e., that they know all the secret passages by heart by now.


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Old January 14th, 2003, 1:56 am
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I agree, they had memorized the map and no longer needed it. That's why they gave it to Harry.


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Old January 14th, 2003, 2:46 am
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Yeah, I don't think that they really used the map much after they memorized all the passages, that would explain why they thought to give it to Harry, because if they really did still need it Harry never would have gotten it. But would the map show someone if they were in animagus form?


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Old January 14th, 2003, 3:09 am
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it would show someone in animagus form, because that's the stem of this entire thread. heh.

i don't know where i'm going with this but..
and even after the map was memorized, F&G would still have needed it to see if snape or mcg was lurking around a corner somewhere. so, eh, i don't know.


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Old January 14th, 2003, 3:17 am
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but we don't know if the M. map shows people in animagus form.


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Old January 14th, 2003, 3:24 am
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Yeah it does. Lupin saw Sirius dragging Ron into the Whomping Willow, didn't he?


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Old January 14th, 2003, 3:28 am
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Lupin saw Sirius dragging Ron into the Whomping Willow, he did?
It's been too long since since I read PoA.


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Old January 14th, 2003, 3:45 am
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Snape just sees Lupin running down the passage under the whomping willow, I thought. It's really never indicated whether it can show animagi.


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Old January 14th, 2003, 4:03 am
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I would think that after memorizing the passages and being that they have never been very "innocent" as Harry said they wouldn't need the map since they would know how to get out of trouble no matter who they encounter.

I doubt they used the map to see if Quirrel was Voldemort since that was probably furthest from their minds.


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Old January 14th, 2003, 4:07 am
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well, they probably weren't LOOKING to see whether Quirrel was Voldemort, but if they happened to see the name Voldemort on the map, I think they'd have done something about it. But then maybe Voldie wouldn't show if he was disembodied.

Or, since the map only shows people who are moving (right?), he never showed up anyway when they were looking at it.

But then, another thing: would Voldie turn up on the map as Voldemort or as Tom Riddle, which is his given name?


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Old January 14th, 2003, 4:16 am
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I'm thinking he would probably show up under his birth name, like Barty Crouch did.

I think the map shows everyone, whether they're moving or not. Because wouldn't it have shown Harry when he was stuck in the step and couldn't move?


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Old January 14th, 2003, 4:16 am
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I think Volde would be Tom Riddle because that is his name. Volde is a sort of nickname. Like Bartimus Crouch, not Barty. It would show their full name.
If they(F&G) did see peter, they probaly though it was Percy's friend or something.


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Old January 14th, 2003, 4:18 am
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They probably saw Pettigrew but they had no idea who he was and didn't care because it was probably someone not important.


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Old January 14th, 2003, 7:25 am
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but we don't know if the M. map shows people in animagus form.
Lupin sees Pettigrew on the map as well as Sirius when they are both in animagus gorm.


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Old January 14th, 2003, 9:26 am
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Another question: how can Harry see Mrs. Norris in the map? Does it show animas as well?


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Old January 14th, 2003, 9:30 am
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I imagine that for Fred ang George using the map to make there way through Hogwarts no longer produces a challenege that they need to fufill there insatiable need to excitment


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Old January 14th, 2003, 11:43 am
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Realistically, the Marauder's Map is going to be quite extensive. Hogwarts castle is, seemingly, massive in size; I doubt it would be possible for the twins to stop and read everyone's names whilst examining the Map. Similarly, the number of students attending Hogwarts has been estimated at somewhere near 1000 by JKR, with the addition of teachers, ghosts, animals, guests etc the names appearing on the map could, theoretically, number well over this estimate.

If Fred and George did routinely consult the Map in their mischief making, I doubt they would have paused to read every name visible. No doubt they would have examined the area relevant to their exploits, checked the coast was clear and moved on.

Besides, I genuinely think they were more interested in the layout of Hogwarts castle with its secret passages and what not than the actual inhabitants (unless they were specifically checking for a clear passage). It wouldn't surprise me if they just didn't notice the presence of Pettigrew etc.


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Old January 14th, 2003, 4:36 pm
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I agree rosiepots.... they couldn't possibly.... well i suppose.... in reality, but who would want to take that much TIME? it would take FOREVER to read ALL the student names.


 
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