How did Voldemort get his wand back?

[hpangel102]

I don't think its possible for Voldemort to get a new one. 1. There wasn't any other wand like its kind besides Harry's, and 2. who would have gotten it for him? Honestly, he would have had to be there to get it, or else the wand would have been fit for someone else. and 3. At the end of Gof, it would have had to be the same wand, because of the thing that happened with Harry's wand and his.

[bubblesofdeath88]

Yes voldemort did kill bertha, but he could have been using peters wand until he found barty, and he returned his true wand to him.

[smartypants]

I got the feeling Whats-his-name was naked after he got his body back. Isn't there hints of that? Somebody probably kept it for him. It could very well be wormtail, because when you transfigure into an animal, your clothes seem to transfigure with you, and then why not some extra stuff like wands.

And I surely have no problem with Lucius Malfoy storing it. He did have his diary, and if oldmort trusted him or not is a moot point, Voldemort didn't give him the wand, he just kept it, if that's the case.

[Sorting Hat's Songwriter]

sorry bubbles but voldy didnt use wormtails wand to kill bertha. Bertha came out of voldys wand remember? I think wormtail WAS at godrics hollow at some point after voldy was stumped by little harry potter. but how he stored/retrieved it is causing me to lose sleep! its 3 am in england!!! ive got to get a definitive theory for this one coz its been buggin me for months!!!!

[Alastor]

All those ppl whose shadows came out of the wand was killed by that very same wand. That's clear enough. And yes, Voldy was naked and Peter had just before used that same wand to kill Cedric. Obviously Peter put that wand in in the pocket of the robes he had ready for Voldy.

And if Peter was at Godric's Hollow with Voldy, he must have left and came back later. Because Sirius was alone there when Hagrid met him.

[Sorting Hat's Songwriter]

not necessarily with voldy. he could have heard (like sirius) gone to see what happened, retrieved the wand and run away. Sirius then arrives, meets Hagrid, Hagrid takes Harry, and Sirius, realising who betrayed them ('You take it Hagrid, I wont need it any more' ie he was goin to murder peter) gets on peters tail (sorry, no pun intended) and when he catches him, we all know what happened then. Only problem is still where peter stored the wand. I think possibly he used voldys wand to blow the street up, and his mother got it back with his finger, and the order of merlin.

[Sorting Hat's Songwriter]

But no!!! coz then we would have seen an echo of the explosion peter caused when priori incantetem happened!! Grrrr this is hurting my head!!!

[EvilMeghan]

OOO - stroke of genious!! OK, listen to my new theory:

After the Potters were killed, the place was probably swarming with MoM people, who confiscated Voldy's wand, robes, etc. - whatever was left. Crouch Jr., through his father's connections, or maybe even through his father (using the Imperious Curse), retreived all these articles and kept them in his possesion. He may have left them at his house, hidden under a floorboard, like Harry and his cake. So when he was taken out of Azkaban, the stuff was still there waiting for him. He probably carried it with him to the World Cup and had it with him when he went to Moody's place. He was obviously in contact with Voldy in order to set up the portkey, so he probably gave Wormtail the stuff to hold then. YAY! A theory that could work!

[Daily Propheter]

After the Potters were killed, the place was probably swarming with MoM people, who confiscated Voldy's wand, robes, etc. - whatever was left. Crouch Jr., through his father's connections, or maybe even through his father (using the Imperious Curse), retreived all these articles and kept them in his possesion. He may have left them at his house, hidden under a floorboard, like Harry and his cake. So when he was taken out of Azkaban, the stuff was still there waiting for him. He probably carried it with him to the World Cup and had it with him when he went to Moody's place. He was obviously in contact with Voldy in order to set up the portkey, so he probably gave Wormtail the stuff to hold then.

That's what I always thought as well.

[smartypants]

Originally posted by EvilMeghan
After the Potters were killed, the place was probably swarming with MoM people, who confiscated Voldy's wand, robes, etc. - whatever was left. Crouch Jr., through his father's connections, or maybe even through his father (using the Imperious Curse), retreived all these articles and kept them in his possesion. He may have left them at his house, hidden under a floorboard, like Harry and his cake. So when he was taken out of Azkaban, the stuff was still there waiting for him. He probably carried it with him to the World Cup and had it with him when he went to Moody's place. He was obviously in contact with Voldy in order to set up the portkey, so he probably gave Wormtail the stuff to hold then. YAY! A theory that could work!

Except that Barty jr comes to the attention of Voldemort through Bertha Jorkins, so then he has to go to Barty first and THEN kill Bertha, which seems strange.

Yup, I think JK Rowing will have trouble expaining this too.

[HPviolinist85]

After the Potters were killed, there was probably a gap between the time that Sirius found them dead and when they were actually killed. Someone could have gone into their house and taken Voldemort's things.

[HPviolinist85]

wait, i have a small rebuttle to my last post, if they took Voldemort's things, wouldn't they have taken Harry away too if they were a Voldemort supporter. Wow, this is really complicated.

[EvilMeghan]

Where does it say that Crouch found Voldy after he killed Berthy? I thought the time he contacted Voldy was a bit vague. We only know for certain it was before Frank Bryce.

[miri]

I would suggest something obscure like *maybe they transfigured the wand into Harry's scar and then when they retrieved the blood got the essence needed to reform the wand* but it doesnt make any sense, and Voldy had the wand before then!

I do find it odd that Voldy's wand was kept safe and Harry was left alive. I think it points to Wormtail tho - after seeing a baby apparently kill the greatest magician, would you try to kill that baby?

I dont think Peter had the self-confidence to face the boy who lived. An elaborate disapearing act involving severing 2 of his own fingers off seems out of character enough for him - sounds painful and he's a coward - but I dont think it was an accident... grabbing the wand, turning into a rat and heading for the nearest sewer entrance is far more his style

[Sorting Hat's Songwriter]

Voldy only found out about crouch being alive from Bertha, so he definitely killed bertha before contacting crouch. It does raise a lot of questions about what went on at godrics hollow that night, and what happened in the 'missing' 24 hours. JK will prob reveal all, we just gotta wait......

[hermiones mum]

When it is explained who was at Godrics Hollow on that night, I am sure it will make sense. However, lots od hidden vaults/storage areas have appeared why not a Voldys one. Peter would have been able to get to it as a rat (possibly the hope that it would make him a greater wizard!).

[smartypants]

Originally posted by EvilMeghan (original post)
Where does it say that Crouch found Voldy after he killed Berthy?

Because otherwise he would have travelled with Bertha to England to meet with Barty and then killed Bertha. It seems very far fetched.

[Alastor]

Where does it say that Crouch found Voldie after he killed Bertha?
In GoF ch. 35.
Quote: "Now it was just Father and I, alone in the house. And then........My master came for me". Unquote.

And that is after Winky had been dismissed. Which means it was later than the world cup AND later than the murder of Frank Bryce.

[Jessica]

THEORY ONE
The wand chooses the wizard, right?

Maybe there is some kind of bond between wizard and wand and even is his half dead state Voldemort was able to keep it near him somehow.

THEORY TWO
How did Voldemort leave. Maybe somebody came to help him and took the wand with?

[Alastor]

Jessica, I might bet a knut on THEORY ONE, But not on the other. Didn't Voldie himself say that nobody ever came to help him before Wormtail came 12 years later?