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Old August 6th, 2005, 7:55 pm
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I'm pretty sure Quirrel was just hired but people knew about him beforehand. Regarding the future DADA teacher, I don't see how it could really matter either way since it is made very clear in the HBP that Harry, Ron, and Hermione will not be returning.
The only thing that was made clear was that Harry at that point did not plan on returning. JKR repeatedly said that 7 books are about Harry's 7 years in Hogwarts. Whatever he was thinking at DD's funeral, he will return, or the last book will have to be completely disconnected from the rest. JKR will need the whole new cast of characters, if Trio goes on quest by themselves.


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Old August 6th, 2005, 9:37 pm
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ABERFORTH DUMBLEDORE will teach DADA in book 7...or I hope so


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Old August 6th, 2005, 9:40 pm
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I really don't think it's all that important. As far as we can tell, Harry won't be going back for his 7th year.

However, my guesses would have to be Lupin or Tonks. Though, they might not take the jobs due to their work for the order.


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Old August 6th, 2005, 9:49 pm
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I don't think the trio will end up going on a quest alone without school, it would be weird, there has to be some school at some point in that book. Maybe not at the beginning but maybe afterwards they go back and finish Hogwarts.

I guess someone new could take over or they could reinstate Lupin, I'd actually very much like to see Lupin back as a teacher.


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Old August 6th, 2005, 10:21 pm
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In spite of Harry's stated plans, events will lead Harry and friends to Hogwarts for a strange year 7. Some of the events may include:
What happens to The Order of the Phoenix and its relation to Harry?
What happens to the Fidelius Charm on 12 Gimmauld Place? Who becomes order's
secret keeper?
What kind of school organization for Hogwarts year 7? Looks like Hagrid, and others
plan to teach anyone who shows up.
Any significant events happen at or interfere with THE WEDDING
How does Harry access the Pensive? What "In case of my death" arrangements have
Dumbledore made to communicate any other info to Harry?

I can see McGonagal, headmistress and OOTP leader, setting up Hogwarts as the new HQ for the OOTP and teach a reduced set of students. Harry will need to leave 4 Privet Drive by August 1 (as the blood protection expires), does not want to live at 12 Grimmauld Place, and needs more security than The Leaky Caludron.

Harry, now adult, will be offered the DADA position and/or will make DA into his version of OOTP. This lets him work out of a safe harbor, while looking for the Horcruxes and figuring out how to get around protections.

Ron has to be Head Boy and Quiddich captain (Just to spite the Mirror), Harry being too busy or innelligible as a Teacher. Harry, in book 7, like Draco in book 6, has important missions that prevent him from attending Quidditch games.

So we will see a lot of Hogwarts in Book 7 but under extreme conditions.


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Old August 6th, 2005, 11:28 pm
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I do think we'll eventually see Harry back at the school in book seven. I also have a feeling that the DADA teacher will turn out to be extremely important. The job was cursed, we are told, because LV was turned down for it. If you look at book 1, at the seven tasks the kids perform (which, in some ways seem to mirror the entire series) it turns out that the DADA teacher is the villian, and in fact is being possessed by LV (you might even argue that in a strange way, it turned out to LV himself)

Now, I doubt that JKR would make it that obvious, that the new DADA teacher will turn out to be the villian, or even turn out to be Voldemort himself. But there has to be a reason that Snape, who also had wanted that job for years (or so we're told) finally got it in the sixth year. I can't see it being so anticlimactic, that it just won't matter in the 7th year. Especially now that we've been told that the misfortune tied to that post was not because Snape was denied it, but because LV was. I'd bet money that it will matter who gets the post, or if it's just kept empty.


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Old August 7th, 2005, 6:26 am
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But how about Charlie or Bill Weasley? Bill's a curse breaker right now, he definetely has the qualification. And if you think about the injuries he got ... maybe he's not up to his job at Gringotts anymore, and teaching would be less ... um ... challenging? Can't think o an appropriate word. Just a suggestion. But maybe it's some minor new character. We'll probably see.
I don't think it'll be Bill. There has already been to-do about Remus, and if the school re-opens the board of governers probably wouldn't approve someone who was bitten by a werewolf no matter what the circumstances.


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Old August 7th, 2005, 6:33 am
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Since Harry's not going to be coming back, I don't think they'll mention the new teacher.


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Old August 7th, 2005, 9:08 am
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Oh, hope Lupin comes back! He's had the job before and I think it's unlikely though. Everybody knows he's a werewolf... It will probably be some new, unsignificant character...


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Old August 7th, 2005, 9:58 am
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The teacher will probably be an unknown, like they are every year. But strangly, and even though i doubt it, I can see Remus coming back to teach :-\

But yeah, unknown...


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Old August 7th, 2005, 10:21 am
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The teacher will probably be an unknown, like they are every year. But strangly, and even though i doubt it, I can see Remus coming back to teach :-\

But yeah, unknown...
Sorry, not every year. It was Snape in HBP. And JKR sort of said that there will be no major new characters in the last book.


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Old August 7th, 2005, 10:34 am
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Sorry, not every year. It was Snape in HBP. And JKR sort of said that there will be no major new characters in the last book.
My mistake Thats what happens when you try to write theories and essays at the same time...
If Harry wasnt going to go back to school, would the DADA teacher be so important?
Otherwise, yeah, it's probably Lupin


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Old August 7th, 2005, 11:01 am
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I think lupin might get the job, either him or Mooney. To introduce an entirely new character in the last novel would be ludicrous. Actually McGonagall as Head Mistress and presumably now new leader of the Order of the Phoenix might insist on preparing her students for another possible attack,if she's not to busy.

I find it hard to believe that the last novel will be set outside Hogwarts, J.K. Rowling has spent like two decades writing the novel, setting up Hogwarts and its characters. As if she would just scrap all that. Harry will return to Hogwarts, even if he has to be forced. I don't think there will be much about the lessons though.


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Old August 7th, 2005, 1:09 pm
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Just because Harry is not returning to Hogwarts doesn't mean that the next D.a.D.A. won't have a role in the story of Book 7 (and I doubt Harry is going to come back; he said he won't, and it would be slighly cheap of Jo to let him make such a big decision and then suddenly come back. What would be the point of Harry deciding not to return in the first place!). It could very well be that the next D.a.D.A. teacher is also a member of the Order and that Harry and him still have a role together, despite him teaching at Hogwarts.

Anyway, let's look at the pattern of D.a.D.A. teachers:

- Book 1: Quirinus Quirrel: Death Eater - Secret: Host of 2/7th of Voldemort's soul
- Book 2: Gilderoy Lochhart: Incapable teacher but not as innocent as he seems - Secret: A fraud and Obliviates people
- Book 3: Remus John Lupin: Capable teacher but possibly dangerous - Secret: Werewolf
- Book 4: Barty Crouch Jnr.: Death Eater - Secret: Was impersonating Mad-Eye Moody on Voldemort's orders
- Book 5: Dolores Jane Umbridge: Incapable teacher but (definitly) not as innocent as she seems - Secret: Sent two Dementors on Harry
- Book 6: Severus Snape: Capable teacher (well... as capable as Snape's teaching methods are) but possibly dangerous - Secret: Was planning to kill Dumbledore

If we follow the pattern, the next D.a.D.A. teacher should be another full-blown Death Eater (though I don't think Snape is on the Order's side (or Dumbledore's death planned), I think Snape has his own agenda rather than devoted to the Dark Lord like Quirrel and Crouch Jnr.), someone that would come completely out of the blue. In that case, a mentor to Harry, someone in the Order would be my best guess.


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Old August 7th, 2005, 3:47 pm
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I'm hope it's a woman.

The only woman that was a DADA teacher was Umbridge, whom everyone hates.

It's like they need redemption with the job.


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Old August 7th, 2005, 3:57 pm
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Will Harry go into a deep depression?
I think we can safely say that the answer to this is nope. It is pretty clear that the death of Dumbledore didn't make him depressed but rather steeled himself for what he has to do. Expect to see a much more determined and focused Harry than ever before.


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Old August 7th, 2005, 5:22 pm
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I think lupin might get the job, either him or Mooney.
I believe Lupin is Mooney.


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Old August 7th, 2005, 5:36 pm
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I don't see Lupin as a likely candidate for two reasons.

Firstly, the parents will not have forgotten that he's a werewolf. Especially in a time of war, with Dumbledore killed at the school itself, they are not going to want a teacher with such potential to harm their children. Lupin himself will be much less likely to take the risk, given that Snape won't be around to brew the wolfsbane potion. (And I just don't see Slughorn doing it every month out of the kindness of his heart. )

Secondly, Lupin has a more important mission to finish up. He's still running around with Fenrir's pack of werewolves. He would need to extract himself from that duty somehow in order to be free to teach.

I don't think any of the Order members we've seen will be in a position to teach this year (except the ones that have been teaching all along - McGonagall and Hagrid). They all have important duties which are even more vital now with Dumbledore gone. Most of them have day jobs, anyway. (And is this really a time to be leaving the ministry?)

While it is true JKR has stated there won't be any new major characters, I'm not convinced that the DADA teacher would need to be a "major character". It could shrink to the visibility of Professor Vector for all we know.

Harry stated he isn't going back to Hogwarts, in which case we may only hear in passing who the DADA teacher is. Maybe so many parents will take their children out of school that teacher can double up subjects. Maybe one of the professors we never see will take over the subject.

I think Harry will go back to Hogwarts, personally, but even if he does, he doesn't necessarily have to have any on-page interaction with the new DADA teacher. We only saw one DADA class in HBP, so why do we need to see any in book 7? There's plenty of other stuff that would be a better use of page space.

So, all in all, I think it will be a new character because I don't think it will be "major".


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Old August 7th, 2005, 6:03 pm
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I don't see Lupin as a likely candidate for two reasons.

Firstly, the parents will not have forgotten that he's a werewolf. Especially in a time of war, with Dumbledore killed at the school itself, they are not going to want a teacher with such potential to harm their children. Lupin himself will be much less likely to take the risk, given that Snape won't be around to brew the wolfsbane potion. (And I just don't see Slughorn doing it every month out of the kindness of his heart. )

Secondly, Lupin has a more important mission to finish up. He's still running around with Fenrir's pack of werewolves. He would need to extract himself from that duty somehow in order to be free to teach.

I don't think any of the Order members we've seen will be in a position to teach this year (except the ones that have been teaching all along - McGonagall and Hagrid). They all have important duties which are even more vital now with Dumbledore gone. Most of them have day jobs, anyway. (And is this really a time to be leaving the ministry?)

While it is true JKR has stated there won't be any new major characters, I'm not convinced that the DADA teacher would need to be a "major character". It could shrink to the visibility of Professor Vector for all we know.

Harry stated he isn't going back to Hogwarts, in which case we may only hear in passing who the DADA teacher is. Maybe so many parents will take their children out of school that teacher can double up subjects. Maybe one of the professors we never see will take over the subject.

I think Harry will go back to Hogwarts, personally, but even if he does, he doesn't necessarily have to have any on-page interaction with the new DADA teacher. We only saw one DADA class in HBP, so why do we need to see any in book 7? There's plenty of other stuff that would be a better use of page space.
He will, if the new DADA teacher will be the guy who wanted the job for so long - Voldemort. Perhaps in disguise.
Count Lupin off - the curse will not permit a returning teacher, and parents will be still concerned about the safety of their children. Without Smape I am not sure if anyone can make the wolfsbane potion.


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Old August 7th, 2005, 6:26 pm
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It should be the unknown Order member, Aberforth Dumbledore.


 
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