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Old July 18th, 2005, 5:35 pm
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Will Draco join the good side?

If the Death Eater's hadn't come up to the tower, what would Draco have done? Would he have allowed Dumbledore to help him? And what is going to happen now?

I really pity Draco. Let’s start from the beginning. Draco is born into a family around the time Harry is born. This family is deep into the Dark Arts. Both his parents are in with Voldemort's circle. Now, think about it. You grow up with all this pure-blood rah rah from your parents, then of course you're going to think that. You don't know any other side of it. Then, you go off to school, and because you are so into the pure-blood nonsense, you are stuck into Slytherin, because that is the house that takes those who think having pure-blood is important. So you're surrounded by people that think the same way - and no one challenges that opinion. I mean, its not as if anyone ever sat down with Malfoy and explained to him about being biased and prejudice - he grew up in a family that put an emphasis on hate and anger, not love and acceptance. So his dad messes up, and Voldemort, as punishment for the family, asks him to kill Dumbledore. Malfoy is happy to step up to the plate because everyone around him for his entire life has supported Voldemort (or at least Voldemort's ideas). But in the end, he is unable to do it. I think Malfoy is finally going to question what he has grown up believing. I don't think he is going to be "good," and I certainly don't believe Harry and Draco will ever be friends. But I do think that he will begin to lose faith in Voldemort and his family, because he is not willing to kill innocent people, and he is not willing to sacrifice himself. I think Draco is finally starting to question the ** he has been fed since birth, which is dangerous and very hard for him. So I really feel bad for him.

I do have a feeling, however, that if Snape really is a good guy, then Snape could weild a great deal of influence over Draco. I do think that most of the Death Eaters are not pure evil (Bellatrix is an exception) but that they just got mixed up into the wrong crowd. Draco is not to be blamed for him position. I think now he will be able to make a decision for himself and then he can be blamed.


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Old July 18th, 2005, 5:39 pm
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Draco's Future - will he join the Order's side?

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Old July 18th, 2005, 6:52 pm
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I agree with a lot of the stuff about Draco, though quite a bit of the things he did were his choice, and some of the people who grew up in pure blood homes (Sirius for example) understood all that was wrong and tried to get out. But I suppose the fact Malfoy had Death Eater parents kind of made him closer to Voldemort's side. I was really suprised at Malfoy's behavoir at the end of book 6. I think he reminded me a lot of Quirrel, being all afraid that Voldemort would kill him if he didn't do the task and all. I was first amazed he didn't kill Dumbledore, then when they started talking it made sense. I think Malfoy will join the Order, at least he and his mom will, but Malfoy Sr and Draco will be killed. Malfoy Sr will try to remain with Voldemort. But I think Draco will be good in the end, but he'll suffer lots of distrust just like Snape did.


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Old July 18th, 2005, 7:22 pm
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I don't think Draco will be in the order, not because he doesn't become good, but cos the other members probably wouldn't trust him. I probably wouldn't want to trust either. I'm sure Draco will turn out good, but it still might be a bit too late for him. Sirus was a Gryffindor from the start, but Draco, you know, is a Death Eater. He may turn out good, but, well, he's a Death Eater...


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Old July 18th, 2005, 8:20 pm
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He might do something that will cause the Order and the DA to benefit. The book keeps hinting that Draco seemed to scared to do any of the deeds that Voldy had given him. He was bullied and threatened into doing Voldy's tasks. Draco might just flee out of being too scared, but I don't think he will join the order.


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Old July 18th, 2005, 8:27 pm
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Harry may very well come to Draco's rescue- but he will never trust him. You cannot trust a servant that serves two masters ex: Snape and Kreacher. [b]


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Old July 18th, 2005, 9:34 pm
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Harry may very well come to Draco's rescue- but he will never trust him. You cannot trust a servant that serves two masters ex: Snape and Kreacher.
Good point. I don't think Draco will turn to the right side. However, I don't think he will be a Death Eater, either.


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Old July 18th, 2005, 9:45 pm
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Draco's future looks dim at best. His father is not a popular guy these days, and now Draco will find himself similarly judged: he did not actually kill Dumbledore, despite his other successes, so in the eyes of LV and the other DEs present, he showed weakness or an inability to get the job done. Granted, without Draco, Hogwarts could not have been invaded by DEs...

He also showed his colors to his fellow students and to the school, who he betrayed and abandoned.

How could he redeem himself? Snape also committed a deliberate betrayal that resulted in death. And he showed to everyone that the trust that was once again given to him was misplaced. Unless Harry is willing to extend the olive branch to Draco the same way Dumbledore did to Snape, I can't see there being redemption for him.


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Old July 18th, 2005, 11:31 pm
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I thought that Draco already was a death-eater. He pulled on his sleeve in Madame Malkins, I though to keep his mark hidden.

I think Draco is a very insecure person. He grew up in a home that is "cold" at best. How much love and approval did he get? especially from his father. His swaggering around school throwing out his connections and his wealth, these are examples of low self-esteem.

He has made choices based on his family-of-origin. Now he has to make choices based on knowledge. Perhaps Snape, if he's still a "good guy" (and I think he may be) can help him. Afterall, Snape himself didn't have a loving home or happy childhood, and if he turns out to be "good", then he was able to make better choices.


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Old July 19th, 2005, 12:30 am
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We *don't* know that Draco's a Death Eater, just that Voldemort's using him as a little pawn, possibly as vengeance for his father's misactions. When he pulled down his sleeve, Harry was speculating that he was trying to hide his mark, but there's no real evidence of that--he might've just been annoyed, as he tends to be.

I trust completely in Snape's allegiance to Dumbledore and the Order. If he stays alive to protect Draco, I believe that Draco will begin making decisions for himself.


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Old July 19th, 2005, 1:34 am
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He also showed his colors to his fellow students and to the school, who he betrayed and abandoned.

How could he redeem himself? Snape also committed a deliberate betrayal that resulted in death. And he showed to everyone that the trust that was once again given to him was misplaced. Unless Harry is willing to extend the olive branch to Draco the same way Dumbledore did to Snape, I can't see there being redemption for him.
This is precisely why I believe Dumbledore froze Harry. Harry knows why Draco did it all. He saw him crying in the bathroom for Merlin's sake. At the end of HBP, he says himself that he had pity for Draco. Though I'm 100% certain Draco would not like the idea of being pitied by Harry Potter :P I think that Draco will play a key role in the defeat of Voldemort.


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Old July 19th, 2005, 2:06 am
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I think Draco's character took huge leaps in this book, and it was good to see. One of the things I've disliked prior to HBP was that the Slytherins were presented as an entirely unsympathetic bunch.

But, as Harry realizes, it's hard not to feel some pity for a boy asked to murder, with the lives of his parents at stake should he refuse. Up to this point, it's all been a big game for Draco, but when he's actually put on the spot, he discovers that he has a conscience after all.

And it added a lot of meaning to Dumbledore's final moments. He chooses to spend them trying to save the soul of the boy assigned to kill him. And in the process, gives a lesson in mercy so powerful that even Harry figures it out. (Yes, I agree that DD's purpose in freezing Harry was so that he would watch the whole Draco confrontation play out).

I rather hope that Snape carried out the plan Dumbledore described - faking Draco and his mothers' deaths and hiding them securely. I don't really see him fighting for the Order, and he's still an unlikeable git, but after choosing not to become a murderer, I hope he's not forced to "resign" from the Death Eaters in similar fashion to Regulus Black.


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Old July 19th, 2005, 2:53 am
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i think that Draco will redeem himself, but not by joining the order or anything. He will still be on the dark side...but now will be more reluctant than ever to perform the tasks that Voldemort asks. Maybe he'll stall Voldemort or something to that sort for Harry in book seven... I dont think that Draco will truely go over to the good side, it's just that he'll reconsider performing an evil spell the next time he faces harry, or the order, etc.


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Old July 19th, 2005, 3:01 am
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I think that Draco will remain faithful to Voldemort for a while. I then think that he will mess up and Voldemort will be planning on killing him. In the end Harry will probably end saving his life and Malfoy will join the good side.


Im not quite sure but didn't one of the previous books mention James saving Snapes or something of the sort?


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Old July 19th, 2005, 3:07 am
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I don't think he'll join the order. I think he'll mess up with voldemort and voldemort will kill him.


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Old July 19th, 2005, 3:13 am
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I really felt terrible for Draco in this book. He was really given no choice in the mission that he was set. It was sort of a "your dad messed up, now do this or you all die" type situation. Obviously he had to attempt to kill Dumbledore. And being Draco Malfoy, he made it sound as cool as possible to all his friends.
I think the scene with Moaning Myrtle was evidence enough of how he later felt about the "mission". Draco was scared for his life. He was really in an impossible position.
Up on the tower, he totally lost his nerve. There is no way he would have gone through with killing Dumbledore. If the Death Eaters hadn't shown up, he may have even taken Dumbledore up on the whole offer of protection. Draco is a true Slytherin. He is amitious, but he isn't going to jeopardize himself. He is selfish to the bone. I don't think it makes him evil though.
I had a lot of pity for Draco in HBP. I can only imagine that he now has no way out of a life of service to Voldemort. He will probably do it unwillingly and begrudgingly at times, but that is where his choices in life have taken him.


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Old July 19th, 2005, 3:33 am
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I think he will take DumbleDores ( ) request that he could hide him.


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Old July 19th, 2005, 3:35 am
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We *don't* know that Draco's a Death Eater, just that Voldemort's using him as a little pawn, possibly as vengeance for his father's misactions. When he pulled down his sleeve, Harry was speculating that he was trying to hide his mark, but there's no real evidence of that--he might've just been annoyed, as he tends to be.

I trust completely in Snape's allegiance to Dumbledore and the Order. If he stays alive to protect Draco, I believe that Draco will begin making decisions for himself.
I apologize but you are about as mis-guided as Dumbledore. Draco is indeed a death eater. Remember how Lupin couldn't pass the invisable barrier to the Tower- only the death eaters could get through. Draco is one of them. Now I believe that he had no clue as to how deep and truly evil his becoming a Death Eater was; but the kid is still rotten.
As for Snape if he were truly on the good side he would have sacraficed himself for Dumbledore. But like a true syltherine he was too selfish and ambitious to do so. He also had the audacity to mock Harry by telling him how dare he use his own spells against him. He is too full of himself and self-important to have ever been good.


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Old July 19th, 2005, 3:43 am
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I was really scared for Draco after Sectumsempra and thought he was dead. I think this book held amazing growth for Draco and helped to shape his views so they were better refined than the narrow minded ideas of the Draco of Book 1.


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Old July 19th, 2005, 3:45 am
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I can't believe anyone feels sorry for Draco. He has always been a death eater in the making. He did not feel forced into the job of killing DD, he gladly accepted the challenge.

Draco will be dead by the second chapter of book 7. Lucius and Narcissa too.


 
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