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Old July 19th, 2005, 1:21 am
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Good question.

Somehow I don't see Snape brewing a lucky potion. Not his style. Anybody else with some ideas? It would have to have been started some time in March, I think.
yeah and that would have meant March fifth book and that seems a bit awkward

another little question:
the cover of the book, us edition. is that supposed to be a pensieve because that is not how it is explained in the book and it seems a bit BIG .your thoughts>?


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Old July 19th, 2005, 1:23 am
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The reason I would think that Dumbledore is described as waving Harry off on an enigmatic note is because he doesn't say more than that, perhaps it is only meant to be enigmatic to us because Harry seems to understand what they are talking about.
The reader is seeing everything from Harry's point of view, so everything Harry knows, the reader knows. Consequently, everything that Harry doesn't know the reader doesn't know either. If it was enigmatic to us, it was the same to Harry and vice versa.

I think maybe Dumbledore was giving Harry a clue... As to what, I don't know yet.

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another little question:
the cover of the book, us edition. is that supposed to be a pensieve because that is not how it is explained in the book and it seems a bit BIG .your thoughts>?
Now that I look at it, it's way too big to be a pensieve... I think it's the basin that they found in the cave. There's green light all around it and Harry has out his wand.


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Old July 19th, 2005, 1:30 am
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I don't see why it should not have been Sluggy who made this potion. He was on the run, he needed luck. He could have taken it always with him, couldn't he? He made it for himself I think. Even though he stated that he took it twice in his life only I'm sure he made this one for himself. Mhm, maybe it was even finished before he went on the run---- or he bought it somewhere just for this lesson. I dunno


As for the mouth organ: Im really glad you also didnt understand. I thoght I was the only one But I really must have overlooked it, because when I read it I couldnt even remember having heard of it before... Well, but the mouth organ will not be important, I'm sure. Because Harry said: The moth organ or sth. not THE MOUTH ORGAN. Dumbledore said ASTUTE because Harry had remebered how important trophies are for LV (not for the mouth organs sake)


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Old July 19th, 2005, 1:31 am
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Well, we know that Slughorn likes to be comfortable and safe. It's possible that he strated brewing it for himself and brought it in for the class to see 'cause, hey, it was already made so why waste time making another potion, right? And the large bowl thing on the cover could be a pensive, since pensives made a big appearence in this book; but it could also be the container that held Slytherin's (fake) locket. After all, the cover is glowing green and in the book a greenish glow is discribed as coming from it.

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yeah and that would have meant March fifth book and that seems a bit awkward
another little question:
the cover of the book, us edition. is that supposed to be a pensieve because that is not how it is explained in the book and it seems a bit BIG .your thoughts>?
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Old July 19th, 2005, 1:34 am
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I don't see why it should not have been Sluggy who made this potion. He was on the run, he needed luck. He could have taken it always with him, couldn't he? He made it for himself I think. Even though he stated that he took it twice in his life only I'm sure he made this one for himself. Mhm, maybe it was even finished before he went on the run---- or he bought it somewhere just for this lesson. I dunno
That's a good idea; I mean he probably was in the middle of making it or already had it made when he decided, Hey! I'll bring it to school with me. It isn't like he HAD to show them Felix right then on that day. The timing was just right, and he wanted to impress the students.


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Old July 19th, 2005, 1:50 am
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Slughorn could have been holding onto that lucky potion for a long time, years, in fact. He mentions that he has only taken it twice in his lifetime, so he's probably had it a long time.


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Old July 19th, 2005, 1:51 am
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hey, who knows where the quidditch pitch went to?


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Old July 19th, 2005, 2:08 am
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hey, who knows where the quidditch pitch went to?
There is a thread on it in the Wizengammot:Missing Forums
Basically they were closed to give the staff more time to devote to the other areas, but the QP should re-open soon.


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Old July 19th, 2005, 2:10 am
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well i doubt the cover is a pensieve because it is obviously too big but it also looks to big to be the thing the locket was it because that is a lot to drink before you get to the bottom but i htink the latter is true....


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Old July 19th, 2005, 2:32 am
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wow i was uterlly confused by the "mouth organ" thing. Thanks for clearing that up guys
this is kinda embaressing... but what might have made me so confused was that i didnt take "mouth organ" to mean like a harmonica. i took it more to mean a piece of a mouth... like organs in the body! How horrifying lol

the thing on the cover i think is most definatly from the scene in the cave! Durign that scene rowling describes the object holding the locket to look like a pensieve, and she describes the green glow on the "island"


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Old July 19th, 2005, 2:41 am
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the thing on the cover i think is most definatly from the scene in the cave! Durign that scene rowling describes the object holding the locket to look like a pensieve, and she describes the green glow on the "island"
Originally, before reading the book, I thought it was a pensieve. But once I read about the stone basin in the cave, I knew that had to be it. The green glow and the island, as you said, is a dead giveaway. The clincher is Dumbledore's hand pushing down against the glow just as he did in the book.


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Old July 19th, 2005, 2:42 am
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On the first page of chapter 3, when Harry is alseep against the window, i would like to assume the word 'fug' is suppose to be 'fog' from his breath on the window. I don't have my book on hand so i can't give the exact quote.


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Old July 19th, 2005, 2:45 am
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That's what confused me. Except for the mouth organ/harmonica in Riddle's box of stolen items, I don't think it was mentioned.

The quote is on Page 278. "Very astute, Harry, but the mouth organ was only ever a mouth organ."

"And on that enigmatic note, he waved to Harry, who understood himself to be dismissed?"

That's the part I don't understand. How does "enigmatic" fit in. Is Dumbledore hiding something that I missed after that?
It's enigmatic because at this point Harry doesn't know about the Horcruxes, and Dumbledore probably does. The ring was a Horcrux, "but the mouth organ was only ever a mouth organ."


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Old July 19th, 2005, 2:50 am
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On the first page of chapter 3, when Harry is alseep against the window, i would like to assume the word 'fug' is suppose to be 'fog' from his breath on the window. I don't have my book on hand so i can't give the exact quote.
Page 38, US
"The misty fug his breath had left on the window sparkled in the orange glare of the streetlamp outside, and the artificial light drained his face of all color so that he looked ghostly beneath his shock of untidy black hair."

Never noticed that the word is "fug" and not fog. My eyes just saw what they expected to see. Is this a British term or a misprint?


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Old July 19th, 2005, 2:50 am
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On the first page of chapter 3, when Harry is alseep against the window, i would like to assume the word 'fug' is suppose to be 'fog' from his breath on the window. I don't have my book on hand so i can't give the exact quote.
The misty fug his breath had left on the window sparkled in the orange glare of the streetlamp outside, and the artificial light drained his face of all color, so that he looked ghostly beneath his shock of untidy hair

Even I have that and I assumed its supposed to be fog.

from: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=fug

fug (British informal) an airless smoky smelly atmosphere



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Old July 19th, 2005, 2:57 am
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Another question...why did Malfoy appear sick/gray? It seemed to me that his illness was more than his assingment from Voldemort. I'm wondering if when you become a DE, are there other rituals besides the mark on the arm that you must endure? But to miss classes for being sick would risk the discovery of his mission...you would think he'd try to act 'normally' in order to not attract any attention. Then again, maybe I'm reading too much into this.


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Old July 19th, 2005, 2:58 am
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I hope this doesnt have an obvious answer that was in the books
but if RAB had to presumebly go through the same challenges, how did the stuff that DD drunk get refilled, because if it didnt somehow do it automatically, someone would have had to notice the locket not being there. And would Voldy have to drink the stuff to get his locket back, so would it kill him probably if he didnt get the other horcruxes first?


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Old July 19th, 2005, 2:59 am
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Were Harry's suspicions about Draco being a Death Eater true? I mean we didn't actually get to see the Dark Mark on his arm..


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Old July 19th, 2005, 3:02 am
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Another question...why did Malfoy appear sick/gray? It seemed to me that his illness was more than his assingment from Voldemort. I'm wondering if when you become a DE, are there other rituals besides the mark on the arm that you must endure? But to miss classes for being sick would risk the discovery of his mission...you would think he'd try to act 'normally' in order to not attract any attention. Then again, maybe I'm reading too much into this.
I think he looked sick/gray because he was terrified of failing LV. LV had threatened Draco and his family with death if he failed.


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Old July 19th, 2005, 3:02 am
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Were Harry's suspicions about Draco being a Death Eater true? I mean we didn't actually get to see the Dark Mark on his arm..
i think for the most part its true. death eaters do the work of the dark lord, which draco is doing at hogwarts. since he is young i see him as a kind of "junior" death eater lol. not quite there yet because he wasnt even able to kill, but we see from the bathroom scene that he has little remourse for using an unforgivable curse.


 
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