The Sacrifice at the End of Book 7

[confutatis]

[quote=But I do believe that Dumbledore is dead, although he may still be available to Harry via his portrait[/QUOTE]

Yes, I think 'available' may be a better term. However, I foresee something involving Fawkes and DD... There was a whole lot of phoenix lamenting goin' on, and Fawkes hasn't been heard from since... And the phoenix does have great healing power... Oh well, we can dream, eh?

[mdb09]

Horcruxes are advanced, dark, evil evil evil magic.

[thewidowblack]

Do we know for certain there is to be a sacrifice at the end of book 7? Is it something JKR has stated in an interview?

I actually liked part of this idea and kudos to you who made it.
People keep saying Horcruxes are advanced dark magic. Well, so is Avada Kadavra and we know LV messed that up once so why not messing up his horcrux. By the way I may be wrong but did JKR ever chronicle the whole scene? Maybe my memory is failing me but I don't remember anything past his mom dying and the rest we just are left to assume. I maybe wrong though, its happened before!
So if we haven't been led by the hand through Harry getting his scar then how are we to assume LV didnt use the avada kadavra curse on harry and then the horcrux spell, and THATS what backfired.

[Crystal_Quill]

Even before HBP was released, I sustained the theory that the series will end with Harry self-sacrificing himself, in order to make it possible to kill Voldemort. The Horcruxes idea, and the possibility that either Harry, or Harry's scar can be one of them reinforces it beautifully. So yes, I'm 100% with the idea posted in this editorial.

confusing much?

[Jack_Bauer]

I agree. I think Harry is Voldemorts Last Horcrux...Think about it. Voldemort wanted all his horcruxs to be special to him, and the killing of harry potter was definately going to be special to him and it would have been a great way somehow for something in Godrics Hollow to be his last Horcrux, however when the spell back fired harry became voldemorts last horcrux without him even knowing it. Now harry must sacrifice himself in order for voldermort to be killed. All this of course after harry destroys the other remaining horcrux's

[MoodyMuggle]

Originally Posted by bellelayne

IBy the way I may be wrong but did JKR ever chronicle the whole scene? Maybe my memory is failing me but I don't remember anything past his mom dying and the rest we just are left to assume.

Well she's given us lots of hints, but thinking about it, who was at Godric's Hollow on that night to pass information on to Dumbledore and the rest of the wizarding world? James and Lily were dead. VOldemort's lost his body, and anyway wouldn't gossip about it, and Harry's just a baby wondering what all the pretty lights are. So how does anyone know what happened that night? If it was a Death Eater, are they really going to tell the rest of the world what happened? My guess is it was Snape, possibly with Pettrigrew as well (after all, Pettigrew ends up with Voldy's wand somehow).

If Snape was there, he would have seen it all, told DUmbledore. Dumbledore would have spread the story. It would also mean that Snape knows a lot more about Harry than he's been letting on.

[confutatis]

The last question asked in Emerson and Melissa's interview with JKR was if there was anyone else present at Goderic's Hollow when James and Lily were killed, to which JKR replied 'No comment'... Obviously SOMEBODY had to be there to tell what happened. My money would be on Snape. The death of Lily might have been what drove him away from LV.

Originally Posted by bellelayne

I actually liked part of this idea and kudos to you who made it.
People keep saying Horcruxes are advanced dark magic. Well, so is Avada Kadavra and we know LV messed that up once so why not messing up his horcrux. By the way I may be wrong but did JKR ever chronicle the whole scene? Maybe my memory is failing me but I don't remember anything past his mom dying and the rest we just are left to assume. I maybe wrong though, its happened before!
So if we haven't been led by the hand through Harry getting his scar then how are we to assume LV didnt use the avada kadavra curse on harry and then the horcrux spell, and THATS what backfired.

Wouldn't that mean that Harry would be dead, though? Why would LV use the horcrux spell if he hadn't just killed Harry. I think it's pretty obvious that it's the killing curse that backfired, because nothing else makes much sense there.

[LitChick]

I think it's a brilliant theory: Harry as Voldemort's horcrux, but I don't think Voldemort can be Harry's. In order for a wizard to make a horcrux they must perform a spell and kill someone. Harry in his infancey couldn't have performed a spell, especially one so difficult and evil, and as far as killing someone, we all know that that didn't happen. Even if you were to consider Harry to be the cause of his mother's death, unintentionally causing someone's death and actually killing someone are two completely different things. Definitely on the right track though.

[Montse]

Sorry ,I dont agree at all with your theory,of course we all are speculating here,but I dont see how Harry can be the Horcrux destroy himself and still be able to vanquish the dark Lord unless you think that the Sacrifice harry will make,out of love for others safety , is too much for LV to stand and dies

[Jack_Bauer]

Maybe He didnt use the Avada Kedavra first, maybe he used the horcrux first and that backfired. Or Maybe it was some sort of combo between a killing curse and horcrux curse. But I definately think somehow harry is voldemorts last horcrux. Nobody knows for sure what all 7 horcrux's are.

[ReadTheBooks]

This may have been mentioned before somewhere else, but couldn't it be quite possible that Harry was a horcrux, because in GoF, Wormtail says that the process could be completed with any wizard, he didn't need Harry Potter to return, but Voldemort only wanted Harry. Could Harry of been a horcrux and Voldemort wanted him in order to get back that part of his soul? Maybe I'm just nuts on this.

Oh and I've gone through this same thought in my head before, but found it unlikely after beginning to reread the books.

That is when I stumbled back across this in GoF while rereading the books trying to pick up on things I had missed before, and this kind of stuck out to me on the subject of horcruxes.

[Ben24]

Uh, no. end of story. picture it guys, would you like it if this happened? I know I wouldn`t. anyway...

hey I liked reading what you wrote...although i think its kinda far-feched if not impossible...i did give me a lot to think about and got me to writing a lengthy bit of writing myself which i will be posting soon.
some things that your writing (aswell as some of the peoples responces) got me thinking about different senarios and although i dont really fully agree with your as much...no offence...i did however think that maybe rather then an actual Horcrux in Harry...maybe the soul that was in the Dark Lord the night he tried to kill Harry was the one that is now inside him...this would explain all of the sstrange connections between them. then there was also that one person that said about it not being possible because of only one soul being in a body at a time...but there was prof. Qwerril. then the other person saying that it couldn't be possible becasue the Voldy cant possess Harry becaase of all the love in him...however it could be that when he entered Harrys body...he sensed the part of his soul that was his and left as to not harm Harry...his new found treasure that untill that time he didn't know existed. although i fully disagre with the theory that Harry's soul is split and that he has a Horcrux.
anyway...i will go into greater datail in this alonf with 7 other theories that i have devised about the 7th book...if anyone would like to read them i am probably going to name it "Harrynodie's book 7 theories" which will be posted soon hopefully.

i did not like this editorial very much it was well written but i did not like it because i don't believe it.

If Harry is Voldemort's last horcrux, I don't think he would need to sacrifice himself in order to destroy it. Look ath the ring, Dumbledore destroyed the horcrux but the ring survived.

Grrr, I just moved in to college and didn't get a chance to go to the library but if i remember correctly, the ring or the charm in the ring was cracked it was broken not the same, follow?

[plainlypotter]

Originally Posted by bellelayne

I actually liked part of this idea and kudos to you who made it.
People keep saying Horcruxes are advanced dark magic. Well, so is Avada Kadavra and we know LV messed that up once so why not messing up his horcrux. By the way I may be wrong but did JKR ever chronicle the whole scene? Maybe my memory is failing me but I don't remember anything past his mom dying and the rest we just are left to assume. I maybe wrong though, its happened before!
So if we haven't been led by the hand through Harry getting his scar then how are we to assume LV didnt use the avada kadavra curse on harry and then the horcrux spell, and THATS what backfired.

Maybe I didn't understand this, but are you saying that LV performed the AK spell and then made Harry a horcrux??? AK would have killed harry, are you suggesting he is an inferi_ reanimated by LV after the horcrux was implanted??? this just make sense to me but maybe I'm missing the point