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Old April 15th, 2003, 4:21 pm
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I wrote this explaning the character of Hermione for a book report for an english class last year.

Hermione is the “truth-sleuth” of the trio, “comfortable in the library and is always standing at a crossroads pointing the way” (Grynbaum) for Harry and Ron.

The character of Hermione is put into the series to act as an ancher to the Muggle community, the same as Harry is, IMO. Without her though, the boys would be lost in areas of their adventures. Remember, Hermione has a basis of logic, where Harry and Ron shine else where. Without Hermione's logic to solve problems, there is a piece missing from the books. To me, Rowling added the character of Hermione to add some depth to the plot and for another source of information.


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Old April 15th, 2003, 4:50 pm
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Quote:
Originally posted by Hpmons (original post)
"Things we know about Ron:
- his greatest desire is to be Quidditch captain and Head boy (be better than his brothers basically)"
"Things we know (or dont) about Hermione:
- she SAID her fear was McGonagall telling her she had "failed everything"
- She doesnt seem to show any jealous or anything to anyone."
Ron's greatest desire at age 11 was to be the best of his brothers. We don't know what we would currently see.
As for Hermione, her greatest fear was failure. I see no reason to doubt this. Also, what about Hermione's reaction to Fleur? Not a lot of warm fuzzies going on there.


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Old April 15th, 2003, 5:01 pm
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This what Rowena said let me think about something. It isn´t little bit strange that Hermione only in her first year go home for christmas, but later not anymore. I mean she is the only child of her perants and do see her only for few weeks in summer. Yeah somebody will say she stay becourse of Harry, but she could at least miss her parents over chrismas. But nothing. I mean Ron has his family around him, with all his brothes and his sister and he don´t go becourse they go to his older brothers,right!? He is allways talk about his Parents what they do or not, but Hermione she said nothing. Only once as Ron ask her if she can ask her parents about Flamel. Thats when we hear her parents both dentist. She don´t say something about her parents by her own. I mean this is strange, when you the most time in a year away from them.


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Old April 15th, 2003, 5:09 pm
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Yeah Penelope thats truth. IMO i see her as a key for all books. She is the one who has always the right things in her mind. Look at PS/SS and COS. Later in POA she was the one with the Timeturner without Sirus were dead or worst like dead. In GoF she teach Harry the importanst spell, its the summoning spell without this Harry would be in the Hands of Voldi.


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Old April 15th, 2003, 8:09 pm
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I believe Hermione will become more important that she already is in the future books as Voldemort comes back to power and we see prejudice against Muggle borns as in COS again. Hermione grounds the 2 boys, without her they would have gotten into far more trouble. She does come to their rescue a lot with last minute information but there is a lot more to her character than that.

If Hermione was only there for giving out information then Rowling could easily have made her a pure blood wizard but that fact that she is Muggle born is of great importance in my opinion.


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Old April 15th, 2003, 11:16 pm
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OOOOhhhhhh! Rowena Ravenclaw! I think you have something! The reason she fears failure is partly because of her parents! * lets out breath slowly* Thank you for that quote! I can think again! (Note: please don't ask! I have a forming theory in my mind that isn't fully baked.)
Flying Pheonix: Yes that is strange. I'll think about it while my theory is being completely formed!


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Old April 16th, 2003, 12:19 am
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Slightly off the general idea of this thread, but since it's titled "hermione mysteries" here goes;

Why isn't Hermione in Ravenclaw? I'm quoting from one of the Sorting Hat songs here " In Ravenclaw the cleverest are prized far above the rest" - or something very close to that!

I know Gryffindors are chosen for bravery, and Hermione is very brave, but her brains and cleverness seem to outweigh that.

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Old April 16th, 2003, 1:07 am
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Well, JKR has said that Hermione's dialogue is the easiest to write just because she does, more or less, stick to the "facts".

In that respect, Hermione's role is to act as the "informed" part of the trio. I can't really say much else without repeating what's already been said, but I agree with what has been said thus far, particularly Penelope's post.


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Old April 16th, 2003, 1:24 am
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The reason i think Lupin didn't allow Hermione to attempt to take on the boggart was a simple one. How would Harry have felt if he was the only one who hadn't attempted to take on the Boggart, basically i feel he was just making it where will Hermione and Harry answered questions so they had already earned their house points, it was a way of not singling out Harry and making him feel like an outcast or different


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Old April 16th, 2003, 2:21 am
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FYI: I've merged Mega's thread "What Is Hermione's Role?" to this thread since, as Rowena Ravenclaw had mentioned, Mega's thoughts have been lightly discussed in this thread. So, to re-post Mega's thoughts:

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We know nothing about her outside of her education. We know more about Snape then we do about her and she supposed to be a main character. Do you think JK put her in just so if Harry ever needs to find out something Hermione can just say it because she clever and proberly read it somewhere?


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Old April 24th, 2003, 7:06 am
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Well, she is certainly an easy way to feed the reader tidbits of information.


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Old April 24th, 2003, 11:19 pm
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Yeah, she is. J.K. Rowling said so on an interview on the CoS DVD.


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Old April 25th, 2003, 12:14 am
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Personally, I think it's just good writing not to go overboard on the introductions early on. In some books the first chapters read like factfiles on the characters, and it's really annoying to read. So the first books were, thankfully, void of that. Hermione did play a bigger part in GoF, and I think we'll learn more about her in the next book. Well, I hope so anyways.


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Old April 25th, 2003, 2:30 am
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i believe Hermione is going to be a much bigger character in the next 2 books possibly all next 3 books..........anyway i look at it something has got to give and i think the information pot is about to spill on Hermione,Charlie Weasely,Lupin,and much more on Sirius


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Old April 25th, 2003, 5:57 am
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Hermione has to be a huge part in the next 3 books, she has already been crucial to Harry becoming a great wizard. I think Hermione will play a vital role in the end of the book, something to do with the downfall of Lord Voldemort.


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Old April 25th, 2003, 6:33 am
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I agree with Potter80 about Hermione's role gaining prominence in light of the oncoming war.

This seems to be what Rowling might have hinted at when she said that Harry needs Hermione badly. We might see just how bad things get with Voldemort, and just how badly Harry needs her at his side.


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Old April 25th, 2003, 7:07 am
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Well I would say that Hermione's role would stay about the same, sidekick, but I don't know. She has a smaller role in CoS than Ron and a bigger role than Ron in POA. I think Hermione and Ron are always going to be second banana.


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Old April 25th, 2003, 8:10 am
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I'm not saying that Hermione could ever surpass Harry's importance in the books. However, I can see that she will become a stronger presence in his life than Ron will, and she will be important in more ways than one.


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Old April 25th, 2003, 11:44 am
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Personally, I don't think Hermione's role or influence will increase in upcoming books. She is the intelligencia of the three and serves as a reminder of Voldemort's prejudices and hatred -- she makes Voldemort's agenda more relevant to the reader and the protagonists alike. Similarly, she also gives an interesting "spin" on the events unfolding in the books as the only lead, female, Muggle-born character.

I can't see the books becoming more Hermione orientated, but I suppose we'll have to wait and see.


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Old April 25th, 2003, 11:48 am
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I think Hermione and Ron will both continue on as they are. I think they're already huge factors in Harry's world. They are the center of it. They may not always be where the story [the plot rather] but they'll be fighting by his side until the end.


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