Tracking Down the Remaining Horcruxes v4.0

[Morgoth]

Hear ye! Hear ye! Welcome One and All to version 4.0!

This thread will further the discussion on possible hiding places for Voldemort's remaining Horcruxes.

the rules of this thread the rules This thread exists to debate a particular aspect of the Horcrux, in this case locations. What this thread is not is a place to come and insult, mock, degrade or put down members for their views. Those of you who wish to engage in such behaviour will have a single warning before you are removed from the forum altogether. Engage the debate in the spirit in which it is meant to be debated. Important: Please ensure your signature does not contain any kind of support to one group or mocks in any way an opposing idea relating to the Horcrux threads. This ensures fair play when debating. You are welcome to have your societies off site.

The previous versions can be found here:

Identifying and Tracking Down the Remaining Horcruxes (version 1)
Tracking Down the Remaining Horcruxes (version 2)
Tracking Down the Remaining Horcruxes (version 3)

Following Harry's summary and Dumbledore's confirmation:

HBP pg. 507 "So, the diary's gone, the ring's gone. The cup, the locket, and the snake are still intact, and you think there might be a Horcrux that was once Ravenclaw's or Gryffindor's?" "An admirably succinct and accurate summary, yes," said DD

- we are looking for hiding places of these 4 objects.




Will they be hidden inside, outside, around, under, over, behind, betwixt, between, to, fro, far, wide, hither and yon:

Hogwarts, Albania, Egypt, Riddle House, caves, mountains, bunny holes, loose floor boards, chamber pots, cabinets, wand shops, tunnels, matresses, seasides, countrysides, dark forests, alleys, shrieking shacks, orphanages, dungeons, towers, sheds, over hill & dale, under water or in the air?

Let the sleuthing continue.

[pamela meza]

I think the cup is at hogwarts, then Harry will have to come back to hogwart at a point in his journey, and maybe he can talk to dumbledore's portrait. what do you think?

[anabel]

Originally Posted by pamela meza

I think the cup is at hogwarts, then Harry will have to come back to hogwart at a point in his journey, and maybe he can talk to dumbledore's portrait. what do you think?

Is there any clue in the books that makes you think that? The cup is a known historical artefact and Dumbledore has suspected that it is a Horcrux for some time, otherwise it might have been fun to speculate that it was hidden in full view in the Hogwart's trophy room. But Tom didn't obtain the cup until after he left school. Could he have brought it back to Hogwarts and hidden it there without Dumbledore knowing?

[OwlPatronus]

Could be, but Harry may have to come back to Hogwarts whether the cup is there or not. There is the library, which will be a huge resource even if the school is closed, the room of requirement, and, as you say, Dumbledore's portrait, not to mention the Penseive.

[Fury]

Originally Posted by pamela meza

I think the cup is at hogwarts, then Harry will have to come back to hogwart at a point in his journey, and maybe he can talk to dumbledore's portrait. what do you think?

I think that something may be at Hogwarts. But it may not be the cup. I am thinking that it could be the Ravenclaw Horcrux... it could be the mirror of Erised. Previous posters on this topic, as well as other Horcrux topics, have said that Ravenclaw's object may be the Mirror of Erised... because one of the things described about the mirror was it's claw like feet. And claws, being a connection to Ravenclaw.

Another item, could be the Gryffindor Sword... it was owned by Godric Gryffindor and Voldemort was looking for things owned once by the four founders of Hogwarts...

[anabel]

The problem with any of the Horcruxes being at Hogwarts, is that Voldemort had left school before finding and making most of them. He returned to Hogwarts only once, and Dumbledore was keeping a close eye on him that time. Of course, it would be in good literary tradition for the final Horcrux to have been under Harry's nose all the time. Is there any particular object at Hogwarts that has been mentioned several times in passing without actually having a function in the story yet?

[OwlPatronus]

I don't know about particular objects, but Voldemort was not in the school only once: he was in there for at least a whole year while he was possessing Quirrel. If voldemort wanted to hide something in Hogwarts he could have done it, but I doubt that he would simply because of how protected the two Positively Known Horcruxes were.

[pamela meza]

The problem with any of the Horcruxes being at Hogwarts, is that Voldemort had left school before finding and making most of them.

I don't know, it could be that voldemort left it in another place but for destiny circunstances it ended up in hogwarts and as you say it would be in good literary tradition.

[teo]

Originally Posted by pamela meza

I think the cup is at hogwarts, then Harry will have to come back to hogwart at a point in his journey, and maybe he can talk to dumbledore's portrait. what do you think?

Whether or not it is the cup, I do think that Harry will come back to Hogwarts at least once in Book 7, simply because I just can't imagine a Harry Potter book in which we never see the place! Assuming that all of the Horcrux locations hold some sort of significance for Voldemort, I can't imagine a better hiding place location for him to use than the place where he first began to develop his magical abilities. There are a couple points I would make regarding Hogwarts as a possible Horcrux location.

First, I find it very odd that Tom Riddle came back to Hogwarts to request a teaching position he knew Dumbledore would not give him...I think he had an alterior motive for going to Hogwarts, and it could have been either to hide a Horcrux or to look at possible locations for hiding one. The reason also could have been to try to obtain an item to turn into a Horcrux, but that isn't for this thread!

Second, I think there are some great hiding places at Hogwarts that he could have used. The most likely one from my point of view is the Room of Requirement. In HBP, we were introduced to a "version" of the RoR in which there were countless hidden objects that had been stored there. It makes sense to me that there could be a Horcrux buried somewhere in amongst the mess, and it would likely be very well hidden there. If, as you suggest, Hufflepuff's cup is located at Hogwarts, I think the trophy room could be a good location. I don't have the time to look up the exact description right now, but I believe it was described in Book 1 as basically a large room filled with various cups and trophies. This would be a good place for Voldemort to hide a Horcrux in plain sight, although one would think that perhaps Dumbledore or someone else would have stumbled upon it at some point.

If Riddle/Voldemort was not able to hide a Horcrux within Hogwarts itself, then I think we can look for one in the surrounding area; perhaps in the Forbidden Forest, Hogsmeade, or the supposed graveyard that exists at Hogwarts (if there is one...JKR implied there might be one in an interview).

[OwlPatronus]

If Voldemort had been desperate to put a Horcrux in Hogwarts he could have done at any time while possessing Quirrel. However, I don't think he would have for the same reason I don't think a Horcrux will be found in Egypt: it's far too exposed. In Hogwarts there are hundreds of students about, and the most powerful Witches and Wizards in the UK are there, just like Egypt is swarming with cursebreakers.

[anabel]

I think Voldemort was too busy finding the Stone to worry about hiding horcruxes while he was possessing Quirrel. Anyway, he didn't kill anyone that year, so the best he could have done was to find a new hiding place for an old Horcrux, and that seems unlikely to me.

[OwlPatronus]

But it would have been difficult for Voldemort to hide anything during the other visit. Dumbledore was probably having him kept an eye on the whole time he was in the grounds since he suspected he was up to something. The Room of Requirement is interesting though, what did we see in there (in the "Hiding" version)?

All objects in the "Hiding" Version of the room of requirement

Broken furniture
Thousands of Books
Fanged Frisbees
Winged Catapults
Bottles of congealed potion
Hats
Jewels
Cloaks
Dragon Eggshells
Bottles with evily shimmering contents
Rusting swords
A Bloodstained Axe
Stuffed Troll
Broken Vanishing Cabinet
Large Cuboard (acid damaged) containing a Quintaped Skeleton, in Cage
Chipped bust of an Ugly Warlock
Dusty Old Wig
Tarnished Tiara

[anabel]

It seems that every student who ever knew about the RoR has hidden something in there! Don't you think Voldemort would have a bit more style? One was hidden in his "ancestral home", another in a bowl of potion in the middle of a lake full of inferi in a cave with a hidden entrance within another cave that could only be entered by swimming. Dumping one in the RoR just doens't have the same panache!

[RavenEye]

Disclaimer: what follows is my opinion only and is supported by not much canon.

Diary
*found* in the possession of Mr Malfoy who smuggled it into Hogwarts via Ginny. Destroyed by a basilisk fang (impaled on its own sword anyone?)

Ring
*found* in the Gaunt hovel protected by a nasty curse

Those were the easy ones...

Locket
I think we can safely assume that it was in the cave and that RAB didn't put a fake locket in the basin in place of another Horcrux object. Worth noting for a pattern is that it was surrounded by water (Slytherin's element) and protected by a potion that may have echoed the words of the children tortured in the cave.

As to where it is now, there is a reasonably hot trail leading to/from 12 Grimmauld Place and possibly involving Kreacher and Mundungus.

Cup
Not such a hot trail here, but much speculation about plants/earth hiding it due to the Hufflepuff connection. My favourite theory for its location is within Hufflepuff's home valley, which I speculate is Brockdale based solely on the etymology of that word.

Snake
(Assuming she is one - I think she is)
Logic says 'hanging around Voldemort', perhaps that's too simple. Maybe she's hanging around Slytherin's ancestral home (if that wasn't Little Hangleton). If Little Hangleton isn't in the fens (which aren't 200 miles from anywhere in Surrey for a start), then the place I'd start is Ely. I can see Slytherin making his home on an island town surrounded by watery fenland.

Something of Gryffindor's/Ravenclaw's
(Ravenclaw object being the favourite)
I think the location of this Horcrux will also be in a founder's neck of the woods: that would be Godric's Hollow or a glen somewhere in Scotland. I'm warming to Argyllshire, even though I wasn't that convinced when I suggested it: the idea (forget who had it) that PoA showed us 'where' rather than 'what' is tipping the scales for me - the Fat Lady hid in a map of Argyllshire when Sirius attacked.

[OwlPatronus]

That's interesting, and the theories are perfectly legitimate as we have very little canon for any of this. My theory, though, is that the cup will be hidden somewhere in Europe (for example, Albania because Voldemort knew it well enough to hide there) as a refference to the whole grail legend. As for ravenclaw, I have no idea.

[Fury]

What about the fact that Nagini might not be a Horcrux... what if Gryffindor and Ravenclaw items are Horcruxes... seeing that Riddle liked trophies and he liked stuff to do with the four founders...

There also is the fact that maybe Riddle (like most Slytherins) just didn't like Gryffindor, so he didn't make a Horcrux out of an item that belonged to Gryffindor

[OwlPatronus]

Wait, we're accidently branching into the "identifying" thread now, aren't we. Darn. Anyway, about locations as oppossed to identities: I think that the cup will be in Europe somewhere and the Ravenclaw item will be in the orphanage, because that is the only spot from Voldemort's childhood we have not seen thouroughly investigated yet.

[Fury]

Originally Posted by OwlPatronus

Wait, we're accidently branching into the "identifying" thread now, aren't we. Darn. Anyway, about locations as oppossed to identities: I think that the cup will be in Europe somewhere and the Ravenclaw item will be in the orphanage, because that is the only spot from Voldemort's childhood we have not seen thouroughly investigated yet.

Yeah, I sorta was talking about the identification of it... but if Nagini is not a Horcrux, that would add the Gryffindor AND the Ravenclaw Horcrux to the list of finding em... but I think one of them is at Hogwarts... like I said before, it could be the Mirror of Erised or the Gryffindor Sword... both residing at Hogwarts right now...

[YSUDomino]

I agree with the part about the orphanage. So here are my guesses.
1.) Diary - destroyed
2.) Ring - destroyed
3.) Amultet - destroyed by Regulus Black (wild goose chase ensues looking for it though)
4.) Cup - Orphanage
5.) Something of Ravenclaw's - buried with Voldemort's father/ or in the Riddle House
6.) Snake - near Voldemort

[Tane]

Originally Posted by OwlPatronus

But it would have been difficult for Voldemort to hide anything during the other visit. Dumbledore was probably having him kept an eye on the whole time he was in the grounds since he suspected he was up to something. The Room of Requirement is interesting though, what did we see in there (in the "Hiding" version)?

All objects in the "Hiding" Version of the room of requirement

Broken furniture
Thousands of Books
Fanged Frisbees
Winged Catapults
Bottles of congealed potion
Hats
Jewels
Cloaks
Dragon Eggshells
Bottles with evily shimmering contents
Rusting swords
A Bloodstained Axe
Stuffed Troll
Broken Vanishing Cabinet
Large Cuboard (acid damaged) containing a Quintaped Skeleton, in Cage
Chipped bust of an Ugly Warlock
Dusty Old Wig
Tarnished Tiara

Ok there where dragon eggshells, I missed that and what is more if there are eggshells then what happened to the dragons. I think the dragon eggshells might actually be a clue to the fact that there might be dragons in that room guarding a horcrux perhaps. Do you think Basilisk eggshells are as big as dragon eggs? I mean why would they throw dragon eggshells into the room? Something of Ravenclaw might have been left in that room after use though this would mean that the room of requirements was created by the founders for storage.