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Underground Lake #28: Part 5 - Harry and the Last Great Adventure



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Old November 9th, 2005, 1:33 am
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Underground Lake #28: Part 5 - Harry and the Last Great Adventure

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Old November 9th, 2005, 2:34 am
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Wow- I actually had that hope- about Ginny and Harry's baby- for.....about two years, but didn't think it was really possible....so it's really cool to see someone else mention it. You're right, it would be very poetic. But maybe not for a children's book. Well, I guess that JKR could always write around that whole ordeal, and never actually say they have sex... and maybe it would work?

What about Draco? He was missing from your book 7 predictions, and he was one of the characters I've wanted to see your thoughts on most. You've covered Snape pretty well- I think I agree with just about everything you said about him- but not much mention of Draco.


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Old November 9th, 2005, 2:42 am
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I like the Greyback VS Lupin idea... No more Mr-Nice-Werewolf-Lupin-Guy... However, if Lupin dies I don't think it will be at the hands of Wormtail (though it's a sad but neat idea...) simply because JKR stated in her 2005 ITV interview that Wormtail would not kill Lupin... I wanted to pull up the direct quote but alas the server is down! But I can definitely see some kind of confrontation between the two... Perhaps instead of killing Lupin with his silver hand, Wormtail will aid in Greyback's downfall...maybe...*ponders*


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Old November 9th, 2005, 2:56 am
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Brandon, this was AMAZING. Not only was it well thought-out and brilliantly theorized and perfectly put, as always, but the teen sex and the epilogue made my day. I want to marry you now.

I don't quite agree about Lupin and Wormtail's silver hand - I always thought the theory was very shabby - and though you have a point with the veil, I'm beginning to think outside the box.
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From the Dursleys' point of view, they never asked for this responsibility. They never asked to be the caretakers of the savior of the world... but they did it. Horribly and begrudgingly, yes, but they did it. And that is a pleasant thought. If these selfish, mean-spirited people would take in this orphan despite the large amount of danger that faced them upon doing so, that really speaks well to the nature of man in a way. All I want is for Petunia to say, "be careful." That in itself, given their history, speaks VOLUMES. It says, "I love you." It says, "I'm so sorry for what I've done to you." It says, "I'm sorry about what happened to your parents, and I miss my sister too." It says, "I wish you well on your journey and good luck in what you have to face." If Petunia can manage just those two words, there is hope for us all. And that makes all the difference.
Yes. I so agree with you. That's going to happen, and it has to. That is the perfect resolution. It gives hope for us at the beginning, when lord knows things are looking ugly, as Harry must find and destroy at least four horcruxes before June.
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Fred and George marry the Patil Twins and have quadruplets named Nitwit, Blubber, Oddment and Tweak. They are the two richest couples in the Wizarding world. They paid to have the Burrow refurbished and remodeled to look brand spanking new.
It would be better if they married Angelina and Alicia. Yes, I KNOW they aren't twins, but they're much better suited to the Weasleys. The Patils kinda suck, in my opinion.
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She becomes the first Headmaster to officially ban Divination. She also makes it a rule that no new faculty member is allowed to wear a turban, carry a flask, have written too many books about themselves or be an appointment by the Ministry.
*snort* I agree with her.

Overall, this was superb. This series, Brandon, is excellent. I applaud you a thousandfold. Your editorials = genius. But, I digress... because...

THE WHEELS ARE IN MOTION!


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Old November 9th, 2005, 2:57 am
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Ok no offense... but the first part really made me laugh! seriously, I fell off my chair, and not in a good way. I don't agree with the Ginny/Harry sex thingy nor the Petunia becoming all sensitive, maybe towards Lily but not Harry.
However the final battles theory is really good and I especially like Neville vs. Bellatrix, that MUST happen for me to really enjoy book 7...
I don't think the Grimmauld place will be plotable because DD was the secret keeper, so he must have taken the secret to the grave, right? So, in my opinion, no one new will be able to enter Grimmauld place because they never got the address from DD himself. so I assume it will be safe for Harry to return and plot his next move...
I really enjoyed the epilogue part, really funny, especially the twins part, hilarious!


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Old November 9th, 2005, 3:46 am
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The epilogue was like the best bit I was **** several times over. Personally after book 6 I think Luna and Neville were meant for each other. I still want Harry to live though, coz after all that suffering it would be a well earned rest. Oh well only time can tell. ANYWAY, a lot of the final confrontations make a lot of sense and yes, Fluer and Bill's love child will indeed be the most beautiful child the world has ever known....


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Old November 9th, 2005, 3:50 am
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"As a guy, I don't think it is fair or even right that Harry Potter, savior of the world... should die... a virgin."

The way I look at it, who's to say that he's still a virgin after HBP? Jo doesn't tell us much about Harry and Ginny's relationship, so we could easily assume that they had already...done it. Lord knows, they had ample opportunity by the lake..... But there's no way that Jo would literally describe or even imply a sexual encounter.

As for the epilogue suggestions, I think some of them like the twins marrying the twins are a little crazy and obviously won't happen. Also, I doubt Jo would go into detail of Dudley having children! I believe that some of the epilogue will be about the wizarding world in general, and possibly about wizards and Muggles accepting each other more readily. Or would that just ruin everything? Anyhow, I don't think Harry is going to die. At least, he won't be killed. Maybe he'll walk into the veil and that's how it will end.


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Old November 9th, 2005, 3:52 am
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Basically in short this editorial was brilliant, the best yet. I'm going to compete with The Obsesser for your hand in marriage!

Question: In book 6 - what was the whole thing with the cursed DADA spot? Do you think it was some kind of curse, coz if it is then we haven't been told about them sorts of curses yet

Eric has a point...


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Old November 9th, 2005, 4:01 am
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I love it, but can't Ginny pull Harry back from the fall into the veil at the last minute?


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Old November 9th, 2005, 4:05 am
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I agree, I still don't want to see or accept Harry dying. But if Ginny pulled him back at the last minute, then she would be the hero

And unfortunately in the Potter universe I don't think or know if its possible


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Old November 9th, 2005, 4:22 am
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Fantastic editorial!!

Just one thing: JKR mentioned in an interview that one of the characters would come back to Hogwarts to teach, but not the one we would expect. She then said that it was not Ron.

I assume "the one we would expect" would be Hermione, so I personally think it's Neville teaching Herbology. I would've liked to have read Brandon's thoughts on it.


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Old November 9th, 2005, 4:43 am
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I loved it! The whole editorial. Don't get me wrong, I didn't agree with some of it, but I loved it.

Oh, and I gotta say... the whole Petunia thing... her saying she misses her sister and that whole idea... I've been hoping for it for the last 5 years....


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Old November 9th, 2005, 5:33 am
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oh i loved that one. One of my favourite's from you so far. I liked all of your ideas, especially about Petunia, and your Epilogue was awesome!! Even though in your version Harry dies...

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As a guy, I don't think it is fair or even right that Harry Potter, savior of the world... should die... a virgin.
My favourite quote ever!! loved it, and agree with it to

Can't wait to read your next article!!


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Old November 9th, 2005, 5:44 am
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I really liked the part about Petunia saying "good luck" or something, I dont think it would be anything more than a simple phrase because anything more would be pushing it.
I also liked the idea that if Harry did die he has a child to live on. But I think it would hurt Harry to know that he couldn't be there for his own kid. I hope that Harry will live so he and Ginny can get married and then Harry will be a Weasly, but still a Potter, and he will have the one thing he has always wanted ... a family!

oh and the Lupin idea I am 100% agreeing with that. Lupin just needs to get really mad and kick some booty! great editorial!


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Old November 9th, 2005, 6:36 am
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wow! awesome editorial and epilogue idea.....i really enjoyed reading it!!!!


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Old November 9th, 2005, 6:43 am
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Yeah, "be careful" would be perfect. It would be the right closer for that part of his life.

I don't think Harry will die. That would be sending the message that in order to destroy evil, you must be destroyed with it. Not everybody has to die. People will, but too many would be downright depressing. If she kills Lupin I will be very sad and very angry at her. Poor guy deserves a break. And I think Moody, Lupin, and Tonks have other things to do than teach, especially if Harry doesn't stay at Hogwarts. They will probably be running around trying to keep him from backfiring some curse and killing himself.

What will happen when Harry realizes the locket is a horcrux? It would be foolish to just aim an Avada Kedavra at it, but it must be destroyed. How can he destroy something when he doesn't even know what is protecting it? It would be suicide. He'd end up like Dumbledore's hand, with not even Snape to save him. Hermione better know her stuff, or Harry will indeed have a very short life. In my opinion, the entire task ahead of him is impossible without Dumbledore's help - and who knows what form that will take?

Sad, sad, sad, that ending.

We thought Book 6 would be chaotic, but I think 7 will take the cake.


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Old November 9th, 2005, 7:25 am
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A few things:

Mr. Black is the one who made #12 Grimmauld Place unplottable and unapparatable. The sense I get is that those charms are still there, and the only one that will have disappeared is the secret of where it is.

Luna and Neville will not end up together, as JKR said on her site in the FAQs section.

I can't find it, but I swear that JKR shot down the theory that Peter was going to kill Lupin. I'd swear it, sir!

Other than that, a fun read as usual.


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Old November 9th, 2005, 7:38 am
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Wait..... what does this silver arm have to do with Lupin??


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Old November 9th, 2005, 7:43 am
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yay! soo excited all over again. love the bit about petunia saying 'be careful'. great editorial. can't wait for the next one!
really scared harry's gonna die tho! i would cry for soo long!


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Old November 9th, 2005, 7:46 am
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Harry will die, yes. Otherwise, and not just for the sake of getting some resolution at the end of the series, can you imagine the franchise that will follow? Harry Potter continued movies, cartoons, tv series', and soooo much more. comics, etc, etc... Sure they could do it for Ron/Hermione, but Harry is the main character...

Ok, to what I really wanna say, great editorial! I really like all of the ideas, even the Dudley stuff... Though....

Ginny will do what Harry wanted to do in book 5... She will jump to the veil in a hope to save Harry, and will die. I only say that because I think it would be cruel for Ginny to have a kid to Harry (which she will) and then have to live all of her life without him, never able to move on because of the expectations the general public will put on her. So Ginny will die, leaving Uncle Ron and Aunty Hermione (with the help of Grandma Molly) to raise Harry and Ginny's kid. Black MESSY hair, brown eyes.

Again, great ed.


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