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Old December 25th, 2005, 8:38 am
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I agree, killing voldemort would probably qualify Harry to be an auror.

What I would really like to see is Harry and Ginny's children. I think that would make a better epilogue than a wedding.
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ye i think the newts dont matter now that its basically wizard warfare so he'll be an auror no matter what but voldemort could use ginny as a hostage or kidnap her so harry will come to fight him i think they will stay together and play a major role
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Actually, that was my point with the Auror decision - does Harry still want to be one? Will he still want to be one when it is all said and done?
I don't know, even with Voldemort vanquished there may well be other Death Eaters willing to carry on with his legacy so depending on what sort of condition, mentally and physically, Harry is in after that and how many are left will determine if he wants to continue in that vein or would just prefer the quiet life.

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Same goes for Ron.
Indeed, he seems to have made that call more as a reason to stick by Harry than anything else. I find Belovedranger's fanfics from Checkmated quite interesting in that regard, she has written future Ron as taking up a career as a Quidditch keeper, a rather good one at that.

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Whether or not they do will affect when they get married. Really, that would go for any career choice that involved further training. We don't really know about the other careers. We know that Percy started at the ministry right away but, because of what we were told about Aurors, it would appear that it varies for different careers.
We know Harry is financially well off so that side of his future is well covered, he'll be pretty secure straight out of school.

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But I am certain on the relationships. I think Jo was very definite on that. The relationships are set and that's how it's going to end up. I think she did that deliberately - wrapping all of that up in HBP - so she can focus on wrapping up the main plot in book 7. At some point in book 7, Ron and Hermione will cement their relationship and Harry and Ginny will get back together and cement theirs.
That's where I see them going too. As for what the future holds I think Jo has written the wizarding world very much like Victorian Britain but minus some of the more ridiculous prejudices of that time. I think beyond the books it's likely we'll see both pairs married at what would be considered a young age in the real world yet I doubt for a moment that either Ginny or Hermione will be the type to settle quickly into the type of domestic role that Molly has made for herself.

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I don't believe that either couple will get married immediately and certainly not while any of them are still in school. Deevo had an interesting suggestion in saying that they could end up finishing school with Ginny because of the Horcruxes and battling Voldemort. That would be an interesting twist. Either way though, they won't get married until school is finished and they have started careers. I think the 19-22 range is a good guess for that.
Thanks, I'm quite attatched to that notion though it's just an idle one. I thought since Jo had inadvertantly kept Marcus Flint back a year that leaves the trio the oppertunity to spend a year pursuing Voldemort and coming back to finish their education if they so wish.

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I had also considered the possibility that they might do their seventh year when Ginny did hers. That would make it possible for Harry and Ginny to be Head Boy and Head Girl together (just like James and Lily).
Cute, unlikely but cute . After all if this were to happen then we'd also see Ron and Hermione back and while Ginny is a fair student from all accounts with her own talents I don't think she's in Hermione's league academically. I could be wrong though, it wouldn't be the first time.

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However, if they he needs his seventh year to take his NEWTs so can qualify for taking Auror training, and that was the whole point of him taking potions in his sixth year, he might come back. They may make an exception and permit him to enter Auror training without taking (and passing) his NEWTs, but they might not. Otherwise we haven't seen any other professions that seem to require training after leaving Hogwarts.
It comes back to the question of what he'll want to do once Voldemort is defeated. If he still wishes to continue to become an Auror he'll more than likely need to complete his education. Somehow I think that after being at odds with the Ministry for several years now they'll be unlikely to make an exception on his behalf anyway.

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I agree, killing voldemort would probably qualify Harry to be an auror.
It may, but will the Ministry be receptive.

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What I would really like to see is Harry and Ginny's children. I think that would make a better epilogue than a wedding.
Indeed, let's get to the really important issue here, will they be redheads or not.
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That would be cute if Harry and Ginny's kid were red heads. I wonder if Ron and Hermione's kid would be red heads with bushy hair.
  



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Old December 25th, 2005, 5:06 pm
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That would be cute if Harry and Ginny's kid were red heads. I wonder if Ron and Hermione's kid would be red heads with bushy hair.
The red-head genes seem very strong so it's a strong possibility Both Mr. and Mrs. Weasley had red hair so that's the main reason all the children were red headed. Ron/Hermione and Ginny/Harry are different so I'm positive their children will have much more of a mixture.


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That would be great to see what their kids look like. I don't think we'll get to see it though, unless JKR decides to change her mind about not writing anymore books.

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you're right padfootandme. we won't get to see it but if jk changes her mind it would be the greatest miracle ever!

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The red-head genes seem very strong so it's a strong possibility Both Mr. and Mrs. Weasley had red hair so that's the main reason all the children were red headed. Ron/Hermione and Ginny/Harry are different so I'm positive their children will have much more of a mixture.
To get purely analytical for a moment I always thought the red hair gene was a recessive one but still one of my mates who has brown hair and his wife has black have three kids, the eldest boy is a fair brown, the middle daughter and youngest son are firey redheads with personalities to match. The youngest thought it would be neat to carve his name into the fuel tank of daddy's nice shiny Yamaha, needless to say daddy wasn't impressed (I can laugh because it wasn't my bike).

Still when you think of it from a purely logical point of view Ginny's parents are both redheads and Harry's were one red and one black with the black being presumably dominant given that Harry has inherited James' hair. It stands to reason that their daughters would likely be redheads at least.

Maybe when book seven is run and done someone could convince Jo to release her notes into a Harry Potter universe encyclopedia with all the background details ov various characters, places and creatures.


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Re: Harry and Ginny -- Where to from here? v3

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The red-head genes seem very strong so it's a strong possibility Both Mr. and Mrs. Weasley had red hair so that's the main reason all the children were red headed. Ron/Hermione and Ginny/Harry are different so I'm positive their children will have much more of a mixture.
I'm guessing red bushy haired kids for Ron and Hermione, and red hair and green eyes for Harry and Ginny's, or maybe black hair and brown eyes


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I wish we could see them all live to see their kids, but I don't think that will happen. I am making myself depressed


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To get purely analytical for a moment I always thought the red hair gene was a recessive one but still one of my mates who has brown hair and his wife has black have three kids, the eldest boy is a fair brown, the middle daughter and youngest son are firey redheads with personalities to match. The youngest thought it would be neat to carve his name into the fuel tank of daddy's nice shiny Yamaha, needless to say daddy wasn't impressed (I can laugh because it wasn't my bike).

Still when you think of it from a purely logical point of view Ginny's parents are both redheads and Harry's were one red and one black with the black being presumably dominant given that Harry has inherited James' hair. It stands to reason that their daughters would likely be redheads at least.

Maybe when book seven is run and done someone could convince Jo to release her notes into a Harry Potter universe encyclopedia with all the background details ov various characters, places and creatures.
Well, my brother and I are both redheads - both of my parents had jet black hair. My mother did some research trying to figure out how she ended up with two redheaded children and discovered that red hair has to exist on both sides of the family for the child to have red hair. That leaves a strong possibility for Harry and Ginny to have redheaded children. Ron and Hermione are questionable because we don't know if anyone in her family has red hair or not.

Of course, that all could be a moot point because it is JKR's world and if she wants them all to have redheaded children she could give them all redheaded relatives.


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Brown hair is dominant! see...i do pay attention in biology. WOO HOO! Go Harry and Ginny!


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It would be so weird if Harry and Ginny had a son that looked like Harry, but had Ginny's eyes. That would be so weird.


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I was just watching one of my old favourite movies this afternoon, The Cruel Sea, and there was an interesting conversation in it between the characters of Lockhart, the ship's number one, and Julie Hallam, his WREN (Women's Royal Navy) love interest (in typically understated British fashion of course, the film is from 1953 after all) which struck something of a chord for the situation Harry and Ginny find themselves in. Unusually, for a war movie's love interest, the character of Julie Hallam was actually based in operations and was very much aware of the risks and dangers that Lockhart was facing, even facing her own dangers as the base was itself subject to air raids.

Anyway I digress, the conversation of interest involved them discussing whether or not it was worth pursuing a relationship given the dangers he was facing but the phrase that really capped it for me here was when he told her that he didn't want to have something to lose to which she replied 'yes, but it's also something to live for.'

Just thought I'd share that, I thought it was an interesting paralell in stories that are over fifty years apart.


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It would be so weird if Harry and Ginny had a son that looked like Harry, but had Ginny's eyes. That would be so weird.
Really? I mean their son would have untidy black hair with brown eyes. I don't see anything wrong with that...


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I was just watching one of my old favourite movies this afternoon, The Cruel Sea, and there was an interesting conversation in it between the characters of Lockhart, the ship's number one, and Julie Hallam, his WREN (Women's Royal Navy) love interest (in typically understated British fashion of course, the film is from 1953 after all) which struck something of a chord for the situation Harry and Ginny find themselves in. Unusually, for a war movie's love interest, the character of Julie Hallam was actually based in operations and was very much aware of the risks and dangers that Lockhart was facing, even facing her own dangers as the base was itself subject to air raids.

Anyway I digress, the conversation of interest involved them discussing whether or not it was worth pursuing a relationship given the dangers he was facing but the phrase that really capped it for me here was when he told her that he didn't want to have something to lose to which she replied 'yes, but it's also something to live for.'

Just thought I'd share that, I thought it was an interesting paralell in stories that are over fifty years apart.

That's how I see the situation between Harry and Voldermort, and it enourages me that Harry will survive. Both Harry and Voldermort will be fighting for their lives, but there is a crucial difference that I think gives an advantage to Harry. Voldermort is fighting not to lose his hold on power - he has nothing additional to gain by eliminating Harry. But Harry will be fighting to get the life he dreams of - being with Ginny and his friends and adopted family.


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Really? I mean their son would have untidy black hair with brown eyes. I don't see anything wrong with that...
Just like James then And their daughter would be fiery redhead with emerald green eyes, how awesome is that? Besides, I believe they'll have 7 to 12 children, which means every possible combination of colours is possible, really.


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Just like James then And their daughter would be fiery redhead with emerald green eyes, how awesome is that? Besides, I believe they'll have 7 to 12 children, which means every possible combination of colours is possible, really.
Mendel would be proud

btw, will they have children? I mean will it fit in book 7 as there are things to put in there, right?


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Oh they'll definitely have children, the question is will Jo tell us how many or give us these kinds of details in the book itself, or wait for some interview someday.


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After reading "The Underground Lake" editorial on Mugglenet, and am now 80% convinced that Harry is a horocrux and will die in book 7, but yes, what about the H/G romance? I liked it so much in book 6 that it transformed me from an HHr shipper to an H/G shipper.... but still, what's to become of this innocent but strong love? Jo Rowling seems pretty big on the whole love thing, so it HAS to be a HUGE part of book 7. But how? Perhaps Ginny might extract the horocrux from Harry through love somehow? I get the feeling that that's not the end of their relationship. It's not over. After all, in book 6, it didn't sound as if it was over quite yet. Ginny' doesn't just give up that easily, and somewhere deep inside Harry, he still wants to be with Ginny. He must learn to overcome his somewhat older-brotherly attitude toward Ginny and recognize her as an equal (like Ron and Hermione). In order to do so, he must be able to trust her to be strong and fight with him 'til the end, because that's the Ginny we ALL know.


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Ive just finished the book 6 and this is my first time on the forms so sorry if this quetion has already been answered.

What do you think will happen to harry and ginnys time in book 7? I believe that they will see each other at the wedding of rons brother and fluar(how ever you spell it) but what after that. The book will prob take off with harry going on to find the last few pieces of LV soul. Would she come back at the end and save harry or will he just be thinkig about her though the book?

I wonder if JKR would like the happy ending and harry ending up with ginny as some people would like to see. It seemed at the end of book 6 that ginny could some what control what harry was doing when she pulled him away from dumbledore. No one can really put him away like that besides dumbledore. Somthing like Lily making james change. But HP books never looked like they wantd a happy ending. Everying time somthing good happens to him, it is taken away (ie. sirius and dumbledores deaths and pulling away from ginny in the last part of the book). so who knows wahts going to happen.

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I like your train of thought glowing_ice.....but so far I don't buy into the Harry as a Horcrux theory, mostly cause I just don't like the idea.
But seriously, if this were true, and Harry did have a piece of Voldemort's soul in him, coulnd't we assume that it would affect him somehow? I mean, Ginny's possession by a seventh of Voldie's soul DEFINITELY affected her. Harry though, has remained pure of heart and intention, wouldn't this be difficult to do while hosting 1/7th of Voldemort?

Edited to reply to raid: Personally, I think that there will be a more happy than sad ending, does that make sense? I think JK Rowling sees it as very important to show horrible things happening and people losing loved ones, but I also think she intends to say that at the end of the day good triumphs. It is for this reason that I think Harry and Ginny will both survive;because life after a horrible war continues, forever shaped by the past but still resolutely trudges forward for all the right reasons. In book 7, I think that Harry and Ginny might have less time together, but that the times they are together will really significant and more emotional than in book 6.



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That's how I see the situation between Harry and Voldermort, and it enourages me that Harry will survive. Both Harry and Voldermort will be fighting for their lives, but there is a crucial difference that I think gives an advantage to Harry. Voldermort is fighting not to lose his hold on power - he has nothing additional to gain by eliminating Harry. But Harry will be fighting to get the life he dreams of - being with Ginny and his friends and adopted family.
Great point. Harry will have everything to lose...and now, with his feelings for Ginny added into the mix...he's gonna have some serious firepower!

When he was trying to conjure the Patronus at the beginning of OotP, it was the thought of Ron and Hermione, of never seeing their faces again, that gave him the strength to fight back and perform the spell. If the mere thought of his two best friends can make him that strong - - just imagine how strong Ginny's love will make him!

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