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Old June 2nd, 2006, 6:34 pm
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Re: Last Word of Book Seven is "Scar"

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I’ve always assumed that because Harry’s scar was a remnant of the killing curse that Voldemort attempted to use against Harry, the scar would disappear after Voldemort dies. It seems like spells only ever last for as long as the person who cast them is alive, as happened with the full-body bind curse that Dumbledore cast on Harry at the end of book 6.
This isn't always true. The founders of Hogwarts lived over a thousand years ago, but the ancient spells cast on Hogwarts (you can't apparate of dissaparate, or to possess others in it) are still there. If a secret keeper dies, the secret dies with that person. The spell doesn't just stop operating.
I think that maybe only very simple spells stop operating when the caster dies, but that's pure speculation...


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Old June 2nd, 2006, 7:23 pm
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Re: Last Word of Book Seven is "Scar"

Thanks Dancing_Blade for you opinions. To answer your last question, I would be upset only because its something I have been expecting. Not that I wouldn't get over it, as I hoped for Harry and Hermione to end up together, and am since thriled they did not. What can I say, I get stuck in my ways.


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Old June 2nd, 2006, 10:31 pm
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Re: Last Word of Book Seven is "Scar"

I was wondering if maybe the last word may be "scar" if maybe it wasn't talking about Harry's scar, but of the scar of another person, possibly Voldemort or one of the other witches or wizards involved in the fabled "Last Battle". I have tried to visualize that last scene again and again, and it probably is Harry's scar that it is talking about, but what if it isn't? JK has surprised us before, right? I think that maybe Voldemort recieves a scar from Harry at some point, maybe because since Harry's mother's sacrifice gave him one last chance, but Voldemort, given that he now has Harry's blood, may have one remaining chance that he has not used yet...? Not sure about this, but it is worth speculation...


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Old June 3rd, 2006, 1:37 pm
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Re: Last Word of Book Seven is "Scar"

Wow...some good theories.Here's an idea of how it could end. "...and the pain subdued in the old scar." Is that dramatic enough?


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Old June 3rd, 2006, 1:48 pm
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Re: Last Word of Book Seven is "Scar"

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This isn't always true. The founders of Hogwarts lived over a thousand years ago, but the ancient spells cast on Hogwarts (you can't apparate of dissaparate, or to possess others in it) are still there. If a secret keeper dies, the secret dies with that person. The spell doesn't just stop operating.
I think that maybe only very simple spells stop operating when the caster dies, but that's pure speculation...
Do we know for sure that these spells were set in place by the founders? I always assumed them to be Dumbledore’s creations. When he and Harry enter the Hogwarts grounds on brooms at the end of book 6, it says that Dumbledore is undoing the enchantments that he himself had set around the castle so that they could enter this way.

I agree with you about the secret keeper spell, though.


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Old June 3rd, 2006, 3:20 pm
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Re: Last Word of Book Seven is "Scar"

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Do we know for sure that these spells were set in place by the founders? I always assumed them to be Dumbledore’s creations. When he and Harry enter the Hogwarts grounds on brooms at the end of book 6, it says that Dumbledore is undoing the enchantments that he himself had set around the castle so that they could enter this way.

I would have thought that at least some of the spells protecting Hogwarts would have been put in place by the founders. Of course DD would have added his own, but surely there are some spells that have been there since its creation


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Old June 3rd, 2006, 3:26 pm
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Re: Last Word of Book Seven is "Scar"

Wait, why are some saying his scar will disappear? Can we assume that Dumbledore was right in saying that it will remain there forever?

I still vindictively hope Rowling referes "scar" to parched land...


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Old June 4th, 2006, 3:46 am
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Re: Last Word of Book Seven is "Scar"

"and harry lived on to a ripe old age, became minister of magic, and had twelve children; and he always had his scar."

lol this ones better.

"harry lived the rest of his life in quiet solitude with ginny. they lived not to far from where the final battle had ravaged the land because no one liked going there anymore and it was said that that horrible scar of land was haunted. harrys scar became less visible over the years but harry knew it would never completely disappear. dumbledore had said it wouldn't. harry commenly thought about these thingsthe lightning bolt that started his destiny and the place that completed it. both important scars."


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Old June 4th, 2006, 3:34 pm
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Re: Last Word of Book Seven is "Scar"

What about someone buying a chocolate frog and turning over the card to see Harry with his lightening bolt scar.


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Old June 4th, 2006, 4:08 pm
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Re: Last Word of Book Seven is "Scar"

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Do we know for sure that these spells were set in place by the founders? I always assumed them to be Dumbledore’s creations. When he and Harry enter the Hogwarts grounds on brooms at the end of book 6, it says that Dumbledore is undoing the enchantments that he himself had set around the castle so that they could enter this way.

I agree with you about the secret keeper spell, though.
THe protection against intruders coming in on brooms was Dumbledore's, but it was placed there because of the war. I'm almost sure that normally, you could fly in.
I think that everything Hermione always recited from Hogwarts: A History are things that have been in place since the beginning fo Hogwarts, including the anti-apprarition protection.


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Re: Last Word of Book Seven is "Scar"

I'd agree that it's nothing we're going to expect, since all the endings I've seen so far (including my own pathetic attempts) haven't sounded up to what I'd expect for Rowling and don't seen to fit the style of Harry Potter. For that reason I don't think it'll be refering to Harry's scar, but something else.

I don't know, maybe refering to the scars the war left on the wizarding community. There are many better endings using that, and the best thing is that they don't have to bend over backwards to put the word Scar in the right place. They just fall that way.


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Old June 4th, 2006, 4:27 pm
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Re: Last Word of Book Seven is "Scar"

ok heres a thought.didnt get time to read whole thread but.... if harry defeats voldemort then he will just be a normal man (not to us,obviously-but he will have that weight off his shoulder 'neither can live while the other survives...'yadda yadda) so it could be along the lines of.

"Just another man,with a (unusual/strange/remarkable-i like this one best!)scar..."


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Old June 12th, 2006, 9:13 pm
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Re: Last Word of Book Seven is "Scar"

I got a sad reason for that last word being scar. Words are spoken at funerals to remind us of those we care about. It is possible that Harry might still die and that the last word scar is due to them saying that he was the boy who lived and died a man no longer with that scar.

I would cry my eyes out to something like that though but it is possible and this could fit with the Odo song sang by Slughorn and Hagrid. They carried Odo back to his home (Harry calls Hogwarts his home) turned his hat inside out (the sorting hat or Dumbledore's hat worn by Harry) and snapped his wand in two. Remember it was Hagrid who brought Harry to his new home at the Dursleys after Voldemort had attacked him. Albus says that Harry will stay at the Dursleys as long as he can call it his home but even Harry has said that Hogwarts is like his family, his home.

So perhaps it is the last statement at his funeral. Somber I know but it could still be a possibility.


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Old July 4th, 2006, 7:25 pm
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Re: Last Word of Book Seven is "Scar"

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What about someone buying a chocolate frog and turning over the card to see Harry with his lightening bolt scar.
i like this one!...


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Old July 4th, 2006, 7:29 pm
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If it is the last word, I hope JKR doesn't make it really cheesy and forced.
I agree. That would be horrible.

Been trying to see how it could end like that and so far, all of them are somewhat corny and cheesy.

I wonder whether Harry's scar will disappear when Voldemort is defeated...I wonder whether it'll heal or something. Maybe it'll have to do with something like that.


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Old July 5th, 2006, 4:10 am
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Re: Last Word of Book Seven is "Scar"

Im hoping to read something like

and of he who most not be named ,the most feared wizard of all times nothing was left but a scar.


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Old July 5th, 2006, 4:14 am
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Well, Voldemort left a lot bigger impact on the world than a scar...that makes it sound like after all he has done, the only thing that was left was the scar when in fact there are still grieving familes and stuff. Good thinking though, just my comments on that setence .


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Old July 5th, 2006, 4:20 am
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Re: Last Word of Book Seven is "Scar"

yep,Iknow,hes left sadness and followers but as I said i hope it ends that way and not
the boy that lived had died and with so all his friendswere elft behind bearing in thier hearts a much deeper scar.


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Old July 5th, 2006, 9:02 am
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Re: Last Word of Book Seven is "Scar"

I was thinking it would be something like:
And it was all because of a boy with a funny shaped scar.

But "boy" may be changed to "man", since Harry will be a man at the end of book 7. Or maybe, at the end of book 7, there will be one reference to the Harry we knew in book 1.

I read a theory somewhere the the last word might end in "scar", so we have something like "Nascar". I was thinking of "Madagascar". Imagine:

"I'm sick of Europe," Harry said as he took Ginny by the arm.
"Come on, Ginny, let's move to Madagascar."


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Old July 5th, 2006, 4:03 pm
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Re: Last Word of Book Seven is "Scar"

I think it may be something with the disappearance of Voldemort and the disappearance of his scar...I mean, it's been said that the scar forged some kind of connection, unless I'm much mistaken (and if I am, I'm terribly sorry). But with that connection, if Voldemort is gone for good, then there'd be no connection, and no real "use" for the scar (like when Harry could read LV's moods and whatnot). Sort of like when Dumbledore had Harry immobilized, until Dumbledore died, then the curse was lifted.


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