Can a dementor suck the soul out of a Horcrux?

[ivyagogo]

Is this how Harry will have to destroy the horcruxes? Will he have to face the dementors in order to vanquish the dark lord? It stands to reason that JK has mentioned souls with regard to both horcruxes and dementors so maybe they too have some relationship.

[vrlc50]

Originally Posted by ivyagogo

Is this how Harry will have to destroy the horcruxes? Will he have to face the dementors in order to vanquish the dark lord? It stands to reason that JK has mentioned souls with regard to both horcruxes and dementors so maybe they too have some relationship.

Well, that's one theory. I just posted a comment that Harry will have to stick his head beyond the veil to have that horcrux scar of his get sucked into the abyss.

But having him stand firm as a Dementor's mouth leers down onto his head and not conjure his patronus would be terrible "to witness"? That just might be necessary!

I wonder if Umbridge knows she might have destroyed a horcrux when she sent those dementors into that alley to go after Harry and Dudley!?

[jkgirl626]

That seems to easy. Besides wouldn't the dementors suck out Harry's soul as well?

[Stephie]

I don't think Harry would ever agree to getting so close to a dementer..

[XxAccioHarryxX]

Yeah, it's an okay theory but it seems way too easy, and I don't think it would be that possible to tell a dementor what to do. "Hey Dementor, go suck the soul out of that cup-Horcrux." Doubt it.

[vrlc50]

Originally Posted by Stephie

I don't think Harry would ever agree to getting so close to a dementer..

Originally Posted by jkgirl626

That seems to easy. Besides wouldn't the dementors suck out Harry's soul as well?

You know, we've heard about Dementors sucking the soul out of people....but whenever we do, it's with regard to someone who is really evil. Maybe dementors only suck out "evil" souls....maybe if your soul is pure, the dementor doesn't have anything to feed off of? So maybe if Harry agrees to letting a dementor approach him, as hard as that would be, the dementor would only suck the soul fragment from his scar. (Assuming of course, you believe as I do that the scar is a horcrux.)

[Pappette]

Originally Posted by vrlc50

You know, we've heard about Dementors sucking the soul out of people....but whenever we do, it's with regard to someone who is really evil. Maybe dementors only suck out "evil" souls....maybe if your soul is pure, the dementor doesn't have anything to feed off of? So maybe if Harry agrees to letting a dementor approach him, as hard as that would be, the dementor would only suck the soul fragment from his scar. (Assuming of course, you believe as I do that the scar is a horcrux.)

I thought the Dementors tried to Kiss Harry in PoA, out by the lake with Sirius.

This is an interesting theory. A dementor that goes over to the good side.

[vrlc50]

Originally Posted by Pappette

I thought the Dementors tried to Kiss Harry in PoA, out by the lake with Sirius.

This is an interesting theory. A dementor that goes over to the good side.

It leaned down, and got awfully close. But Prongs saved the day. I'm not saying a Dementor wouldn't "go after Harry" to suck out a soul. I'm saying that once it did, it would find Harry's soul distasteful since it was so pure. Only the Voldemort soul fragment etched in Harry's forehead would be appetizing to a Dementor. (Once again, that's if you believe the scar is a horcrux.)

[snowgoose]

Originally Posted by vrlc50

It leaned down, and got awfully close. But Prongs saved the day. I'm not saying a Dementor wouldn't "go after Harry" to suck out a soul. I'm saying that once it did, it would find Harry's soul distasteful since it was so pure.

If the dementors are so picky, why would Umbridge have sent a dementor after Harry in Privet Drive? I don't think they particularly care, food is food after all.They didn't seem too convinced by animal emotion, but they seem to have a similar effect on all who go to Azkaban so I don't think they would draw a line at good and evil souls.

It may just be movie rendition, but they seem to draw the soul through the mouth, none of the horcruxes we know about have a mouth(and even if the scar is a horcrux, which I don't believe it doesn't have a mouth of it's own.)

[Pappette]

I'm not sure where it says in cannon, but doesn't someone, Sirius maybe, say that a dementor doesn't care if you are innocent or guilty, as long as they have plenty of people to suck the happiness out of.

Wouldn't they prefer innocent, good souls to suck over evil ones? More food, sort of...

[snoitcelfer]

I don't think that is the way destroying a horcrux works. i think that dementors can only suck whole souls out of people. I do not think it works for inanimate objects, otherwise when the dementors went out of the control of the MOM, they would have destroyed all the Horcruxes that they could ( I would imagine) find. They might not be able to decifer partial souls. It may come across as something other than a soul at that point.
As for the scar or Harry himself being a horcrux, why would Voldy want to kill Harry when he intended to make or had already made him a horcrux? I do not think that Voldy would have put enough faith in a living being to carry a part of his soul. He truly trusts no one, he would see a living being as fallable and therefor unworthy of carrying a part of him. He prefers to take from others not take others themselves for these purposes...

[MrsMollywobbles]

The only distinction I recall reading with regard to what Dementors feed on is happiness...they absorb all a person's happy thoughts/memories and leave him/her with only their darkest/worst memories. I don't remember reading that they were selective about which souls they sucked out, and clearly they were about to take Sirius' soul at the lake and we know he was actually one of the good guys.

I suppose it is plausible that a Dementor could suck the sole out of a horcrux, but for that to happen, Harry would have to fight his own fear of them and find a way to control them to do his bidding. Personally, I hope JKR finds better ways to spend her writing time.

I don't happen to believe Harry's scar is a horcrux because Voldemort clearly intended to kill Harry in Godric's Hollow. If, as Dumbledore theorized, he wanted 7 horcruxes, they'd have had to have been made before he went there unless he planned to make the last one from the Potters' deaths. If from their deaths, then there are only 6 horcruxes in total because when Voldemort fled Godric's Hollow, he was in no form to turn anything into a Horcrux.

[Nightwiz]

I think that one horcux or even more than one will be destroyed this way. It is a logical solution.

[kaelys]

Hmmm..... Having a dementor suck the soul out of a horcrux might be an interesting solution. I can't see Harry using a dementor to suck the soul out of more than one horcrux, though. Not unless Harry manages to obtain a dementor as a pet. I suppose they might be cute when the're puppies.

[vrlc50]

Y'all could be right about how a Dementor works according to canon. However, we really don't have any evidence of what a Dementor does with somebody's soul if it hasn't been compromised in some way. We have someone saying that the Dementor feeds on someone's happiness, and we have a dementor sucking out the soul of Barty Crouch Jr., somebody we "know" is guilty and truly evil. We have evidence of the dementors attempting to suck out the souls of Harry and Sirius....but in retrospect neither is evil, so we have to guess as to whether the dementor would have completely followed through with soul sucking. We also have Dudley...who also encountered a dementor. But, we don't know if Dudley is a product of "nature versus nurture," so there's no way of knowing whether the dementor in the alley would have eventually had his way with the blimp.

So far, the assumption has been that the soul is sucked through the mouth. And that would be all there is to it, except, we don't know of any people who've had their souls sucked out when they're innocent...and we don't have any evidence of someone having a soul sucked out of his/her forehead. Harry is a first...First to have survived Avada Kedavra....first to have a scar on his forehead that (IMO) is a horcrux. New territory here. Only thing to do is say, yeah, but what if?

[Lucybird]

I think that the dementors could destroy the horcruxes. But I don't think they will, I think the dark-side can still offer them more. And I don't think Harry would want their help anyway.

If you're interested in this topic you may want to have a look at this thread which discusses the attraction of the dementors to Harry and the possibility of his scar being a horcrux

[vrlc50]

Originally Posted by Lucybird

I think that the dementors could destroy the horcruxes. But I don't think they will, I think the dark-side can still offer them more. And I don't think Harry would want their help anyway.

If you're interested in this topic you may want to have a look at this thread which discusses the attraction of the dementors to Harry and the possibility of his scar being a horcrux

Thank you...will do....just couldn't resist sticking my two cents in....as always!

[Detonator]

I really don't think they could. However, even if they can, they most likely never will. They don't want to see voldemort go because they are on his side now.

[vrlc50]

Originally Posted by Detonator

I really don't think they could. However, even if they can, they most likely never will. They don't want to see voldemort go because they are on his side now.

Are they? I thought they simply left their posts at Azkaban. That doesn't necessarily mean they are on Voldemort's side. That just means they're no longer under Ministry control. They are, as far as I can tell, wandering the countryside looking for food...and breeding. Pregnancy requires special nutrition! Is there canon somewhere that says they go for any and every soul.....if that is the case, then a massacre is taking place. I think they are just interested in digesting evil acts registered in the souls of the evil. There isn't any evidence anywhere that they've indulged in the souls of those who have no marks of sin on their souls!

[62442al_Man]

Thats interesting. I don't really see a dementor kissing Nagini or Hufflepuff's Cup, though. I would have to say no, then, but I have no strong stance on this nor any evidence.