R/Hr -- Ronald's Final Push

[blaqlives]

Discussion of the Madam Puddifoot's Ron/Hermione article Ronald's Final Push by Mrs Mac.

[wandaXmaximof]

Ohh, very nice editorial. I too ship Harry/Ginny and Ron/Hermione, and was dissapointed that the latter didn't get together during HBP.
I've always thought that Fleur and Bill's wedding might be the oppertunity for Harry and Ginny to reconsile, but now that you've pointed it out, I like your idea a lot better.
I think it's plausable to assume from the information given in the previous books and JKR's interview that Krum will attend the wedding. It's also fair to say that Krum won't know many people there and may spend the whole time chatting with Hermione.
I could totally see Ron, despite his jealousy, realizing his feelings for Hermione at that point and realizing if he doesn't act now it might be too late.
Also, if Ron and Hermione got together early on in book 7, it might strengthen the trio's relationship and help with their fight against Voldemort.
Well written and presented edirtotial I liked it a lot.

[burns20002002]

Nice editorial! I totally agree with you. I also like the Ron and Hermione dynamic, they kind of remind me of myself and my husband(my high school sweetheart).
The event you forsee happening in book seven has a name. It's called "the squeeze play", and although some people might disagree with the method, I believe almost all is fair in love and war. Ron obviously loves Hermione and we know Victor is going to put the moves on her. If Hermione makes it seem like she may be interested in Victor's advances, Ron will have no choice but to make his feelings known. I think this is where Ron will show his true Gryffindor colors. It's gonna take alot of courage to show his true feelings,risk rejection and heartache, and openly pit himself against a world-class Quidditch star.(Seriously though we all know he'll get the girl, but what people need to realize is Ron doesn't know it.) But we might both have it wrong and Hermione might just lay one on him and that will be that!

[Teatime]

I think JKR's done with the jealousy tactics storyline. Ron won't need to declare his undying love for Hermione, she already knows. And he doesn't have to fear rejection, nothing could have been more obvious than Hermione's behaviour during the course of book 6. And why is to be assumed that if there WERE a declaration of love, they'd both be so annoying as to do it directly in front of Harry?

I'm of the group that believes Ron and Hermione are already together, that they had a quiet chat about it in private. Ron won't be snogging Hermione anywhere and everywhere like he did with Lav-Lav: Hermione has more class than that and Ron cares about her too much to cheapen his feelings for her by doing sickeningly public displays of affection... so I'm not holding my breath for great big love scenes. But since so many people are still waiting for something solid, I expect JKR'll make it a bit more obvious in book 7. Maybe by having Krum around and Ron acting possessive... because she's his girlfriend. I don't think Krum will appear at the wedding, I reckon he has a slightly more important role to play so he'll crop up (either randomly or by Hermione's request for some assistance) during a horcrux hunt somewhere. Not that she'll TELL him about the horcruxes, of course. The wedding IS an idea though. Ron'll have brand new dress robes and he'll return the ill-fated sluggy favour by asking HER to the wedding - and maybe Mrs Weasley will get to know about it. Whether Ron gets jealous or not, Hermione's past the stage where she'll do it deliberately - that's SOO book 6

[kitten2cat]

I really like this idea. I cought onto JK saying we'd see Krum again, and the wedding is the perfect place!
I think Ron and Hermione love eachother deeply, and they know the other does, but were afraid to admit they are/know. I like to think sometime between ----'s death and the funeral, or even at the funeral, they both realized it was silly and there may not have any other chance for them to be together. JK has told us it is obvious, so if they suddenly become "an item" with no explination, we really don't need one. But that doesn't mean we all don't want a wonderful scene between the two of them!

[witchygurl]

It is a good idea but i think it will happen accidentally, not with the help of Krum. In book four, Krum thinks that Hermione likes harry, not ron, and is jealous of harry. He doesn't even know about Ron's feelings towards hermione, as far as we know. So I think that maybe if Victor and Hermione, who is obviously over him, dance or chat together in a friendly way, it might make Ron jealous, but not jealous enough for him to admit his feelings towards Hermione. This is because I think that it will happen in the end of the book, because if it happened in the beginning, it wouldn't be that exciting and it would be much more exciting if they got together at the end.

Although this is a well written editorial I don't think it is likely to happen.

Traditionally, weddings are attended by the family and friends of the bride and groom. I don't think that Krum will be at the wedding because I cannot see either Bill or Fleur inviting him. I just don't think either of them are close enough to Krum for this to happen.

JKR has said we will see more of Krum but, at present, I can see no likely way for this to happen. The wedding will probably be the first major event of book seven and I cannot see it being the focus for any major incident unless deatheaters try to gatecrash it.

[MHPFAN]

It would be just like Ron to jump to the wrong conclusions and his jealousy being the catalyst to admit his feelings for Hermione. I liked Krum's character and his feelings seemed very genuine towards Hermione. I'm not sure if he will take it upon himself to tell Ron "Hey, there's the girl, go get her," but maybe there will be a confrontation of some sort that will reveal Ron's affections toward her accidentally. As clumsy and awkward as Ron is, I can see this happening as well. Great editorial, though. One after my own heart!

[pygmY_PufFer]

We've already thought of this idea in the Ron and Hermione -- Where to from here thread, and many people liked it. However, I don't really think that Krum would try to pursue Hermione again, he probably knows by now that she's not really interested in him romantically. How can he not after 2 and a half years of no commitment from her? I think it'd be more like Ron hearing that Krum is there at the wedding and jumping to the wrong conclusions that he is there to try to "rekindle" his relationship with Hermione. I can imagine Ron just marching right up to Hermione and Krum and blurting everything out.

I do agree that there needs to be a catalyst of some form to help Ron reveal his feelings.

[frizzle]

I agree that Ron and Hermione will get together at the wedding and that jealousy of others' attention to Hermione will be what finally tips the scales for Ron. However, I doubt that Krum will be there. I expect that some devastatingly charming cousins (or other relatives) of Fleur's will be dancing with Hermione suggestively or interacting too personally in some other way. While she may enjoy the attention at first, she may feel uncomfortable as it intensifies, and Ron, who is now experienced with snogging in public, will let them (and everyone there) know that Hermione is his.

[LadyM]

I think that editorial makes a very good point...I think Krum played a very important role in the development of Ron and Hermione's relationship, sort of giving them a push in the right direction. I too too think that they will get together at the wedding, and one of the last scenes in HBP when hermione is crying on Ron's shoulder gives one a very happy sense...that YES, they will finally come together very soon...

[cgold]

Good editorial. We have been theorizing about this for a while and definitely Krum being the final catalyst to push Ron over the edge into admitting his feelings for Hermione out in the open, once and for all is certainly an option. JK has stated that Krum would return and even Ron would love to know where Hermione spent the summer of OOTP before she came to his house (hopefully, with her parents since she seems to spend all her time at Ron's place and doesn't see them often).

However, Ron has never admitted his feelings during intense times like this. It's usually found in stuff like giving her the perfume or saying "I love you" in disguise so who knows how JK may have this whole thing work out. All I know is that she's done a fabulous job on this relationship so far and I know anything she writes will be spectacular and I can't wait to read it. I'm pretty sure none are going to die so that makes me even more excited.

Cheers

[ronjalina]

Good editorial. I love everything that supports Ron and Hermione of course.

I agree that Ron will most probably be the one to make a move now. I don´t think they are together already. JKR has built up this relationship so carefully and for so long now that she won´t let their getting together take place in passing and offpage. It´s not so much that JKR thinks she owes this to us, her readers, I believe she loves this relationship too much herself not to write a romantic confession and first kiss for them.

I don´t think Hermione will ask Krum to make Ron jealous. First of all she is already 99% sure of his feelings, it lacks only the first move, and second this jealousy-game would be a reprisal of HBP and neither Hermione nor the author would want to do that, IMO. Nevertheless, Krum could be an incentive either for them getting together or for sorting out their pending issues (Viktor and Lavender). That depends on when Krum will reappear in HP7, since I am sure Ron and Hermione will get together at the beginning. They cannot afford further UT in the face of all the dangerous things they have to do and all the mysteries they have to solve on the way to defeat Voldemort.

Originally Posted by cgold

JK has stated that Krum would return and even Ron would love to know where Hermione spent the summer of OOTP before she came to his house (hopefully, with her parents since she seems to spend all her time at Ron's place and doesn't see them often).

I think Ron knows where Hermione spent the summer of OotP. If he had had doubts, he would have brought up the issue when Hermione was writing the letter to Krum at the latest. The time span between the end of GoF and the time when we meet Hermione again at Grimmauld Place is too short. Harry arrives there at the beginning of August, hardly 4 weeks after the end of last term, and Hermione had obviously already been there for some time.

All I know is that she's done a fabulous job on this relationship so far and I know anything she writes will be spectacular and I can't wait to read it. I'm pretty sure none are going to die so that makes me even more excited.

Cheers

I absolutely agree. JKR has done great with the relationships in the book. I buy all of them.

[kerri]

yeah thats what I assumed as well. With Vicky back in the picture, more mature possibly and less surley with Karfaroff out of his life, we should prepare ourselves to see a Ron meltdown. Harry is going to have to force Ron out of his room and back to the wedding because goodness knows Harry wont want to be left alone with Ginny.

The wedding is going to be an emotional rollercoaster for all parties involved, and Im psyching myself up for the ride! Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

[libbypotter]

I honestly think that Ron & Hermione are going to provide the romance in book 7 not Harry and Ginny. Before I get shot down in flames, I believe Harry and Ginny will get back together at the end of the book after he defeats Voldemort. However I think R & H will have all the romantic will they won't thay action in the book and will get together at the end too.

I just can't wait :-)

[VivianU]

I don't understand why Harry and Ginny adds up to chocolate.

[ronjalina]

Originally Posted by VivianU

I don't understand why Harry and Ginny adds up to chocolate.

That refers to a part in OOtP when Harry was depressed sitting alone in the common room. He wanted to contact Sirius and felt he couldn´t tell Ron or Hermione about that because Hermione would try to talk him out of that. Ginny joins him and he opens up to her. She was able to cheer him up and give him good advice. During that time they shared a Chocolate easter egg.

[Irregardless]

There will be a lot of part-Veelas at this wedding, Fleur's relatives. And as you suggest, some will be male. We don't know what effect part-Veela men have. I'm assuming that Ron will embarrass himself in the presence of all the part-Veela women. Maybe if Hermione does the same, she'll understand Ron a little better.

[Purplerose]

A nice idea, Krum coming back. Whether he will remains to be seemed. I can envisage something along the lines you said, with possibly Rob blurting out his feelings for Hermione during an argument. 'Why do you care so much anyway?' 'because....'. I don't agree with Teatime, I don't think they already together, but I'm sure we will see something in book 7. It will need something for Ron to admit his feelings (and Hermione to admit hers) and perhaps Krum is it. A well written editorial. :-)

[VivianU]

Originally Posted by ronjalina

That refers to a part in OOtP when Harry was depressed sitting alone in the common room. He wanted to contact Sirius and felt he couldn´t tell Ron or Hermione about that because Hermione would try to talk him out of that. Ginny joins him and he opens up to her. She was able to cheer him up and give him good advice. During that time they shared a Chocolate easter egg.

Oh, so that's why! Thanks, ronjalina.