What cuts from OotP are you upset about?

[Shaylinmine]

Originally Posted by RemusLupinFan

There are a couple of things I'd have liked to see, some of which have already been mentioned I'm sure:
- the scene with Neville's mom and dad at St. Mungo's
- Dobby helping Harry with the various tasks
- McGonagall telling Peeves to unscrew the lightbulb the other way

And one other small point- I didn't like how Remus did not appear in the Advance Guard.

I agree. The scene with Neville's mom and dad so have been put in the movie. It's not like they didn't have the actors for it.

And what about the M.o.M going to Hagird's Hut and McGonagall coming out to stop them.

[sirius7]

i really hated how they said that neville found the room of requirement when it was actually DObby and how they didn't show Kreacher telling harry that Sirius wasn't there. and i especially hated how they didn't put the entire prophecy in the movie...the ppl who only watch the movies are gonna be confused because they don't know the prophecy in its entirety.

Originally Posted by Scamantha

Cutting thing out don't seem to bother me, it's when things get mixed up for example PoA when Harry gets his Firebolt!!!! Or when a Character does something completely out of Character for example the way Dumbledore yells and grabs at Harry in the GoF when Harry's name comes out of the GoF.

In my view the movies are based on the books, so will have somethings missing.

yea but look at "the Lord of the RIngs'' MOVIES....all 3 of those movies separately were 3hrs and 45 mins a piece....its not like th HP fans wouldn't sit in the theatre that long if they decided to add the ACCURATE things in the movies

[LordGrindelwald]

None of them.

[Mad_Druid]

The main thing that I wanted to see was Neville visiting his parents at St Mungo's. The way they explained what had happened to his parents in the film just didn't work for me, it was awkward.

[mrfutterman]

Originally Posted by sirius7

i really hated how they said that neville found the room of requirement when it was actually DObby and how they didn't show Kreacher telling harry that Sirius wasn't there. and i especially hated how they didn't put the entire prophecy in the movie...the ppl who only watch the movies are gonna be confused because they don't know the prophecy in its entirety.

Nobody will be confused. The public simply do not pay that much attention.

Originally Posted by sirius7

yea but look at "the Lord of the RIngs'' MOVIES....all 3 of those movies separately were 3hrs and 45 mins a piece..

This is simply not correct. NL insisted that Jackson cut the first 2 films to bring them in under 3 hours. The extended editions, on DVD, run for another 20/30 minutes but they are for fans. The vast majority of viewers have never seen them and will never see them, as the EEs are not shown on TV.

Originally Posted by sirius7

..its not like th HP fans wouldn't sit in the theatre that long if they decided to add the ACCURATE things in the movies

Book fans are a minority of ticket buyers. Those who want what they call ACCURACY can simply read the books. Audiences do not care about Neville, never mind his parents.

[DML1991]

The cut that disappointed me the most, was how short the lost prophecy scene was. I mean, I personally didn't want Harry breaking Dumbledore's possessions and all his yelling, which I think wouldn't have turned out well in the film at all. But I wanted more of Harry elaborating on why he felt it was all his fault, it would have been such a touching moment, him saying if he hadn't believe his dreams he wouldn't have went to the Ministry that night, and how him following his dream actually led to Sirius' death. As well as Dumbledore elaborating on his intentions. I think the scene in the movie was fine anyway, but I wanted so much more.

[MrSleepyHead]

Originally Posted by Shaylinmine

The scene with Neville's mom and dad so have been put in the movie. It's not like they didn't have the actors for it.

This would have been a very powerfully emotional scene in a very stoic film. It would have been incredible (and I believe a smart decision) to bring back Gilderoy Lockhart, to juxtapose the scene with humor and emotion/sadness.

Originally Posted by Shaylinmine

And what about the M.o.M going to Hagird's Hut and McGonagall coming out to stop them.

I was looking forward to this scene. For all Hagrid did in the film, he should have been cut along with Grawp (which I would have disliked, but it was logical). Thus, including him in that scene with Umbridge (I also disliked the cut of Umbridge's hate for half-breeds and her hate for opposition in general - her character is not set up for DH in that manner) and the other Aurors would have been incredibly dramatic (especially after seeing McGonagall go down).

If we actually saw Hagrid's and McGonagall's exit from Hogwarts, the film could have portrayed Harry's panic about having no one else left to tell (and thus why he would check to see if Sirius was at Grimmauld Place). The film fell far short on many aspects of the book that would have made a much better movie, such as:

• St. Mungo's

• Snape's Worst Memory

• Dobby's importance

• Kreacher's importance (it would have been incredibly cinematic to use him more effectively, especially when he cackles that Sirius has gone to the Department of Mysteries

• The full Department of Mysteries battle (it fell far short of my expectations)

• The prophecy and Dumbledore's explanation of the prophecy ("I am going to tell you everything.") - this is the most significant and upsetting cut, I think.

[Solaris23]

I wish there was more tension and danger getting across in the MOM battle between the kids and the DE. It was all just too...Hollywood action for HP for my liking and is one of the few instances where OOTP dropped the ball for me as I would have liked more of the danger and cat and mouse games that were displayed in the book.

[bellatrix93]

I was looking forward to see the Quidditch matches and the 'Umbridge Quidditch ban', also the Ministry battle was so poor IMO, I'm not saying I didnt like it but it's not what I expected.

[ooerr]

The fact that they didn't find the 'big heavy locket that no one could open' messed it up a bit for me.

[ApocalypseNow]

The whole cutting of Dobby thing doesn't make sense, considering what happens in the final book. I sort of liked how he was Harry's guardian angel throughout the series.

[TheShley]

Just general information really. It all happens a bit too fast. But I wish they would stop leaving out Dobby! It is really starting to annoy me. He found the room, not Neville! Maybe the people at WB are confused as to which is Dobby and which is Neville...

Originally Posted by ooerr

The fact that they didn't find the 'big heavy locket that no one could open' messed it up a bit for me.

Oh yeah! It seems to me that they dont see the big picture, if you get what I mean. They dont seem to take into acount that most of whats in the books, is actually a very important part of the whole plot. Silly billys.

[Pearl_Took]

I wasn't upset about any cuts.



Indeed, I didn't notice any. That's because I'd not read OotP since summer 2003 when I saw the film in July 2007 and therefore didn't remember anything I was supposed to be missing. Least of all Dobby. And therefore didn't care.

And, having reread OotP last autumn (enjoying it a lot more the second time round) I still don't care.

[Infinity9999x]

Originally Posted by sirius7

i really hated how they said that neville found the room of requirement when it was actually DObby and how they didn't show Kreacher telling harry that Sirius wasn't there. and i especially hated how they didn't put the entire prophecy in the movie...the ppl who only watch the movies are gonna be confused because they don't know the prophecy in its entirety.



yea but look at "the Lord of the RIngs'' MOVIES....all 3 of those movies separately were 3hrs and 45 mins a piece....its not like th HP fans wouldn't sit in the theatre that long if they decided to add the ACCURATE things in the movies

LOTR each left out significant portions from the books, heck ROTK cuts out almost all of the ending portion after Frodo destroys the ring. There were at least 50+ pages of story that took place after Frodo destroyed the ring. However, because the movies stayed true to the heart and tone of the story, and true to the personalities of the characters, people didn't mind it so much.

I agree with Scamantha, the movies are based on the books. There are going to be cuts, even if we did make every movie 3+ hours. To me, it's more important to make sure the movie is accurate to the tone of the story and the nature of the characters then anything else, which is why, to me, having Dumbledore act like a hyped up grampa in GOF was worse then any cut they made in any of the movies.

[TheShley]

The Prophecy! It smashed and everyone heard it! That wasnt meant to happen, and now its ruined the whole thing about Voldemort not knowing what the whole prophcey was! A large part of HBP is all the speculation of Harry being the chosen one or have I got that confused?

[Infinity9999x]

Originally Posted by TheShley

The Prophecy! It smashed and everyone heard it! That wasnt meant to happen, and now its ruined the whole thing about Voldemort not knowing what the whole prophcey was! A large part of HBP is all the speculation of Harry being the chosen one or have I got that confused?

When the prophecy smashed in the movie, it didn't say anything like it did in the book. The only time it spoke was when Harry held it, and it seemed that he was the only one who could hear it.

[TheShley]

Originally Posted by Infinity9999x

When the prophecy smashed in the movie, it didn't say anything like it did in the book. The only time it spoke was when Harry held it, and it seemed that he was the only one who could hear it.

It missed part of the prophecy out, but I'm pretty sure that when it breaks in the room with the Veil, everyone looked at it and I swear it spoke! Maybe I'm remembering it wrong? But in the book, the prophecy didnt talk to anyone. Actually, doesnt Trelawney come out in misty form? Am I imagining it? I feel confused

[Nympfadora13]

I didn't like that "Snape's Worst Mermory" scene verry much, it was not very long and it did'nt even have Lily in it!

[mrfutterman]

Originally Posted by ApocalypseNow

The whole cutting of Dobby thing doesn't make sense, considering what happens in the final book.

The contents of Book 7 have absolutely nothing to do with the contents of Films 3, 4, etc.

Originally Posted by ApocalypseNow

I sort of liked how he was Harry's guardian angel throughout the series.

That is fine, however the character of Dobby in Film 2 was not well received and he has not been missed by general audiences. I understand that you and other book fans have missed him, but that the film-makers cannot be expected to take that into account.

Originally Posted by TheShley

It missed part of the prophecy out, but I'm pretty sure that when it breaks in the room with the Veil, everyone looked at it and I swear it spoke! Maybe I'm remembering it wrong? But in the book, the prophecy didnt talk to anyone. Actually, doesnt Trelawney come out in misty form? Am I imagining it? I feel confused

No you are not imagining it. They changes it for the film.

[eaglestreasure]

Well, the Snape's Memory thing wasn't really a cut, but I was disappointed at all the material the cut FROM IT.

Lily wasn't in it at all (that I remember), it neglected to have all the dialogue the books did, and felt more rushed than some of the other parts of the movie.

I was sad about the plot change with Cho/Marietta, I thought the it was really clever of Jo to put that in there. But instead, they just bumped Cho in to take the blame.