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Old November 29th, 2006, 1:08 pm
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Snape's reaction to "Coward!"
I was reading HBP and in the chapter The Flight of the Prince, I started wondering, Why did Snape get so angry for being called a coward?

Was it because he had done something he didn't want to do or was it because of Harry's father?


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Old November 29th, 2006, 2:07 pm
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Re: Coward
it might be somthing we don't kow of yet. he knows that he is not a coward. and he is angry at the assumption harry made because he was fleeing


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Old November 29th, 2006, 3:02 pm
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Re: Coward
I think he took the remark of coward from Harry as a big insult, as he considered James to be a coward for bullying him at Hogwarts. My interpretation of it anyways.
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Re: Snape's reaction to "Coward!"
Well, if you believe that Severus is good and he and Dumbledore planned the whole thing, one could argue that he just acted very bravely--he killed the only person who trusts him, on orders, even though it puts him in a horrible situation.


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Old November 29th, 2006, 4:10 pm
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I think its a mixture of both, plus if he IS good, no one else knows, and that makes him a coward in everyone's eyes, not only Harry's, and this must bite him.


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Re: Snape's reaction to "Coward!"
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Well, if you believe that Severus is good and he and Dumbledore planned the whole thing, one could argue that he just acted very bravely--he killed the only person who trusts him, on orders, even though it puts him in a horrible situation.
This is basically whatI think about it; because of everything he'd done that past year he didn't like this kid telling him that he was a coward. Although it could be argued that he didn't like being called a coward because he was a spy ... but that doesn't really make that much sense.


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Old November 29th, 2006, 4:19 pm
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That would be my explanation, Snape was 'forced' to kill Dumbledore to return to Voldemort even though he didn't want to kill Dumbledore. If this is true he is a double spy and that would be veeery risky with the 2 biggest wizards of 'all' time.
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Re: Snape's reaction to "Coward!"
How many of us would have the nerve to put ourselves in the position of double agent for/against Voldemort? If Snape is good (and I hope he is), he killed Dumbledore on orders from Dumbledore, and is about to leave the safety of the school forever. He is about to throw himself to the lions with no place to retreat to. Even McGonigall doesn't know that he and Dumbledore had planned this. So he has gone completely underground with the only way out to vanquishe Voldemort. He will have to work alone and at great personal risk. The other death eaters will probalby still not trust him, or at least be jealous of him, and he will constantly need to look over his shoulder. Not the path of a coward. And to make matters worse, Harry throws this insult at him. I would be angry, too.
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How many of us would have the nerve to put ourselves in the position of double agent for/against Voldemort? If Snape is good (and I hope he is), he killed Dumbledore on orders from Dumbledore, and is about to leave the safety of the school forever. He is about to throw himself to the lions with no place to retreat to. Even McGonigall doesn't know that he and Dumbledore had planned this. So he has gone completely underground with the only way out to vanquishe Voldemort. He will have to work alone and at great personal risk. The other death eaters will probalby still not trust him, or at least be jealous of him, and he will constantly need to look over his shoulder. Not the path of a coward. And to make matters worse, Harry throws this insult at him. I would be angry, too.
Yes exactly, we can't come around the fact that for now Harry and Snape hate eachother because Snape just can't tell he works with Dumbledore to harry or else he would ruin his hiding. But once Snape tells Harry there will be alot of apoligising probably.
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I believe Snape is "good" (maybe not the most fitting word when it comes to Snape, but close enough to get the point across). So him being "forced" to kill one of the very few people he ever trusted and cared for must be one of the hardest and most brave thing anyone can do. I believe Snape was furious, sad, horrifyed and crushed when he ran away, and Harry's "coward!" was the last straw.
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Re: Snape's reaction to "Coward!"
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I was reading HBP and in the chapter The Flight of the Prince, I started wondering, Why did Snape get so angry for being called a coward?

Was it because he had done something he didn't want to do or was it because of Harry's father?
I do not believe that Snape was reacting to being called a coward. Shortly before Harry said "Kill me like you killed him, you coward!", he had called Snape a coward, and Snape had simply returned the insult by implying that James was a coward, for ganging up on people. I think the reminder that he had killed Dumbeldore was what got to him, but he could hardly admit that. (Obviously, I think he did not want to kill Dumbledore but did so because Dumbledore asked him to).


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Re: Snape's reaction to "Coward!"
Could he have mis-heard Harry and thought that he said 'I want to fight you!' ?
...Nah, probably not. I think he was just reminded of some things that other people had said to him over the years.


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Could he have mis-heard Harry and thought that he said 'I want to fight you!' ?
...Nah, probably not. I think he was just reminded of some things that other people had said to him over the years.
Why would he respond with dont call me coward then?
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Why would he respond with dont call me coward then?
Because if the whole idea was to make Voldemort think that Snape is tryuly one of the bad guys, he could hardly say so, it would defeat the purpose.

As the line is written,

HBP"DON'T-" screamed Snape, and his face was suddenly demented, inhuman, as though he was in as much pain as the yelping, howling dog stuck in the burning house behind them- "CALL ME COWARD!"


the dash seems to suggest a pause, as if Snape actually started to say something else and then caught himself. Since Harry had only said two things (kill me like you killed him, and you coward) coward was the other thing he could respond to.

It makes no sense (to me, anyway ) that he would respond so calmly to the first mention of his supposed cowardice, and go postal about the second.


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Re: Snape's reaction to "Coward!"
Oh, I like this topic!

I think Snape's violent reaction was significant. Is Snape's boggart being called a coward? Is that his biggest fear?

I mean, yes okay he would be upset at being called a coward by Harry if Snape is really putting his own life at stake and doing all these things to save Harry in the end - we don't yet know, although that's my guess - but the severity of his reaction to those words made me wonder if Harry touched on a very frightening nerve for Severus.


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Re: Snape's reaction to "Coward!"
This is why I wish we had a real "Severus Snape, character analysis" thread. It would cut down on whole threads for single questions.

It seems that his over the top rage is caused by Harry's implication that he killed Dumbledore in a cowardly manner.

I do like the idea that he changes track in mid-sentence, though. What else could he have been about to say?
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I was reading HBP and in the chapter The Flight of the Prince, I started wondering, Why did Snape get so angry for being called a coward?

Was it because he had done something he didn't want to do or was it because of Harry's father?
Perhaps it's simply that nobody likes being called a coward. Them's fightin' words.


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Well, if you believe that Severus is good and he and Dumbledore planned the whole thing, one could argue that he just acted very bravely--he killed the only person who trusts him, on orders, even though it puts him in a horrible situation.
Yeah, I agree with that. He knows that Harry didn't know about the whole plan, but still, I think the remark got on his last nerve.


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It seems that his over the top rage is caused by Harry's implication that he killed Dumbledore in a cowardly manner.
I like this theory. Snape didn't battle Dumbledore in a one on one battle. He killed an unarmed man. Whether he is good, bad or obscure, the fact remains that Dumbledore was sick and unarmed. That could be enough for Snape to react as he did when Harry called him a coward. It was also what Snape always called James. And now James' son is calling him one.
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Well, I suppose he THINKS he's brave.
 
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