Why was Snape spying on Trelawney's interview?

[SeverusLovesUs]

Originally Posted by shortie97890

i think that Voldemort had him spy on the interview in case there was a prophecy about him he would know about it.

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Well, prophesies aren't very common and neither are Seers. I doubt he knew a prophesy would be made, and even if he did it wouldn't necessarily concern him. I think he was just spying on Dumbledore, which he probably did as often as he could whenever Dumbledore was not at Hogwarts. And since he wanted to spy on Dumbledore so badly, he had Snape go to work at Hogwarts.

[CathyWeasley]

Originally Posted by Night Sky

Snape was there to get a job at Hogwarts too. He was just spying on Trelawney interview because he was there to spy on Dumbledore. He just got lucky and ran and told Voldemort after he was picked off.

What Trelawney says ( Snape was spying to get tips on interview technique) implies that Snape was there to apply for a job too. Undoubtedly that would be on Voldemort's orders - he didn't get the job but managed to give Voldemort something much more valuable and thus avoid his wrath. When Snape went to Dumbledore with his tale of remorse Voldemort was no doubt pleased that Snape had managed to achieve what he was sent there ot do in the first place.

[loonyloopylupin]

I have a thought.


In GOF, Dumbledore says that Snape turned spy for the Order of the Phoenix before the fall of Voldemort. But in HBP, he tells Harry that after James was killed, he felt guilty about telling the prophecy to Voldemort and then turned sides.

That doesn't add up. If Dumbldore is deliberately lying to Harry about what happened at the Hog's Head, and Trelawney can't be trusted to relay accurate information, then what do we really know about what happened?

[TreacleFudge]

Originally Posted by stunnedtina

I believe that Snape was spying on Dumbledore. He stated as much to Narcissa and Bellatrix, so I'm thinking he was probably lurking around wherever Dumbledore was, thus being in the Hog's Head at the time of Trelawney and Dumbledore's meeting and then hearing the partial part of the prophecy.

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[HPFan4Life73106]

Originally Posted by loonyloopylupin

I have a thought.


In GOF, Dumbledore says that Snape turned spy for the Order of the Phoenix before the fall of Voldemort. But in HBP, he tells Harry that after James was killed, he felt guilty about telling the prophecy to Voldemort and then turned sides.

That doesn't add up. If Dumbldore is deliberately lying to Harry about what happened at the Hog's Head, and Trelawney can't be trusted to relay accurate information, then what do we really know about what happened?

This is a good point! I think there was a post a while back about Trelawny's memory of Snape being there an altered memory? That would seem a likely explaination.

Although, there were some arguments about when the prophesy was given. Could it be that the prophesy was given a year before Harry was born? If so, Harry was a year old when he was attacked, wasn't he? That give Snape time to defect and both statements be true. I would sure like a timeline

Another thought- if Voldemort knew that Trelawney gave the prophecy, why didn't he have her more closely watched? Is it common knowlege that a seer doesn't remember a true prophesy- otherwise, why didn't he try to kidnap Trewlaney when he was trying to get it? I don't know if this is the right thread to ask this question, it just came to me as I was thinking about the night the prophesy was given.

[Lucybird]

Well that is actually why Dumbledore employed Trelawney isn't it, so she could be protected at Hogwarts after making the prophecy?

[SeverusLovesUs]

Originally Posted by HPFan4Life73106

Another thought- if Voldemort knew that Trelawney gave the prophecy, why didn't he have her more closely watched? Is it common knowlege that a seer doesn't remember a true prophesy- otherwise, why didn't he try to kidnap Trewlaney when he was trying to get it? I don't know if this is the right thread to ask this question, it just came to me as I was thinking about the night the prophesy was given.

He didn't try to kidnap her because at first she was protected by Dumbledore when he gave her the teaching job at Hogwarts. Then he didn't really need to know the whole prophesy because he assumed that by killing Harry he was fulfilling it. Then he was Vapormort and couldn't do anything to get to Trelawney, but realized he needed some way to learn the whole prophesy. His first concern is getting his body back and when he finally does, his first goal is to hear the prophesy. The easiest way would be getting the record of it because Trelawney is still protected by Dumbledore. However, when this mission ultimately fails, I do not think Voldemort gave up. He had two options: get the prophesy from Dumbledore (IMPOSSIBLE) or get it from Trelawney who would have to be taken from Hogwarts after Dumbledore was no longer there to protect her. Therefore, he not only has his DE's break into Hogwarts and kill Dumbledore, but he now has access to anything he wants from Hogwarts. It is very likely that there were more DE's there (or at least one) who didn't join in the fighting, but went and kidnapped Trelawney (who was not seen at the funeral).

[Nicole]

Please discuss Trelawney's absence from the funeral in Why wasn't Trelawney at Dumbledore's funeral? and keep this topic some 17-18 years prior to Albus's funeral, thanks.