Little questions Answered v9

[Quickquill]

Originally Posted by Gaffel

I was thinking about the books when I suddenly realised that in PS Hagrid says he had to take Harry out of the ruined house, but how and by whom was their house ruined? In Harry's memory of the fatal moment at Godrics Hollow, I get the feeling the house isn't destroyed.
I think it's rather odd.
Is there someone who can give an explanation for this?

The memories unlocked by the Dementors in PoA don't go that far. Harry usually passes out before they get that far. After all, his worst memory is not being attacked by Voldemort, but rather witnessing his parents' murders.

[gottriplets]

Hey...you guys were talking about time turners. I have a question...most likely a dumb one, but here it goes...
In PoA, Harry and Hermione use the time turners to go back in time to save "two lives"...Sirius and Buckbeak. Wonder why no one ever used a time turner to go back to right before Lily and James died and save them? Or DD in HBP for that matter?

Just curious..

[Loocie]

Originally Posted by gottriplets

Hey...you guys were talking about time turners. I have a question...most likely a dumb one, but here it goes...
In PoA, Harry and Hermione use the time turners to go back in time to save "two lives"...Sirius and Buckbeak. Wonder why no one ever used a time turner to go back to right before Lily and James died and save them? Or DD in HBP for that matter?

Just curious..

That is a very good question! Let's see someone explain that!

[GodricHollow]

Twofold, one: Sirius was innocent, thus letting him "die" (effectively) would be making the easy choice.

two: James, Lilly and Dumbledore had to die for Harry to progress. And of course, had they not died then we wouldn't be sitting here talking about them.

[mysterious]

Originally Posted by Annett

But how he sorted out that Harry was the one that was more powerful?

Dumbledore has answered that.....

The Lost Prophecy, Ootp 'But he might have chosen wrong!' said Harry. 'He might have marked the wrong person!' 'He chose the boy he thought most likely to be danger to him,' said Dumbledore. 'And notice this, Harry; he chose, not a pure blood (which, according to his creed, is the only kind of wizard worth being or knowing) but the half-blood, like himself. He saw himself in you before he had ever seen you, and in marking you with that scar, he did not kill you, as he intended, but gave you powers, and a future, which have fitted you to escape him not once, but four times so far-something that neither your parent's nor Neville's parents, ever achieved.'

Originally Posted by CelestLBeing

All that gives is an example of them using it to go back in time. And as JKR hasn't said you can't go forward and lexicon has no quotes from JKR that you can't go forward I think your statement of 'No' is not quite correct. As of now it has yet to be determined.

I agree but then it most likely certain that the time turner is used to go back and not ahead....BTW- can anyone tell me in which direction did Hermione turn the dial of the Time Turner?

Originally Posted by GodricHollow

James, Lilly and Dumbledore had to die for Harry to progress. And of course, had they not died then we wouldn't be sitting here talking about them.

Lets re-frame that, for Harry to be marked as an equal and for him to acquire powers that the Dark Lord knows not, it was necessary that the events occurred as they did, else no one would be able to vanquish the Dark Lord. All in all Lily and James sacrificed their lives so that their son could obtain the ability to vanquish that Dark Lord. Hence they weren't saved.

[Loocie]

Originally Posted by GodricHollow

Twofold, one: Sirius was innocent, thus letting him "die" (effectively) would be making the easy choice.

two: James, Lilly and Dumbledore had to die for Harry to progress. And of course, had they not died then we wouldn't be sitting here talking about them.

I knew someone would think of something (other than the fact that it would have made for a completely different story.

But seriously - do you mean to say that Harry couldn't - - fulfill his destiny, let's say - - - with his parents alive? I can't believe that . . .

Originally Posted by mysterious

Lets re-frame that, for Harry to be marked as an equal and for him to acquire powers that the Dark Lord knows not, it was necessary that the events occurred as they did, else no one would be able to vanquish the Dark Lord. All in all Lily and James sacrificed their lives so that their son could obtain the ability to vanquish that Dark Lord. Hence they weren't saved.

I'm sure you're right, as I've been reading your posts on this and other threads, and I'm certain you know way more than I do about the HP world. And I understand that the events had to go as they are, but surely no one knew James and Lilly's deaths were necessary back at that time to rid the world of LV once and for all.

I guess my point is that Harry would benefit, if you will, had his parents lived, regardless of whether or not the rest of the wizarding world would or not.

I'm going to go now and re-evaluate my role as a parent

[mysterious]

Originally Posted by Loocie

Harry couldn't - - fulfill his destiny, let's say - - - with his parents alive?

Nope, because if it hadn't been for Lily's sacrifice, Harry wouldn't have lived with him being marked by Voldemort as an equal. And James wouldn't have lived if Lily was dead. So they had to die.

[Loocie]

OK, OK - I'll accept that (am I easy to persuade or what!!!) but I don't really want to. I just hate the idea that a child can't be "the chosen one" (makes me think of another story) if his parents are alive. It just ain't right, I tell ya'!

[Alastor]

Originally Posted by Loocie

OK, OK - I'll accept that (am I easy to persuade or what!!!) but I don't really want to. I just hate the idea that a child can't be "the chosen one" (makes me think of another story) if his parents are alive. It just ain't right, I tell ya'!

I'm afraid we have to accept Jo's choices when it comes to how the story is built up.

I don't think how she could have made it different really goes under the heading of Little Questions Answered.

[Dedalus Diggle]

In the 'Identifying Hiorcruxes' thread a post made me wonder this: what would happen if someone who has a horcrux (or two or ...) gets the dementors kiss? The soul can't 'go to the beyond' so is it aware of being digested for eternity?

[mysterious]

Originally Posted by Dedalus Diggle

what would happen if someone who has a horcrux (or two or ...) gets the dementors kiss? The soul can't 'go to the beyond' so is it aware of being digested for eternity?

I guess it would work same as in case when a soul is ripped off its body, a horcrux would be activated and the person will live with another piece of its soul in his body....

[Alastor]

Originally Posted by mysterious

I guess it would work same as in case when a soul is ripped off its body, a horcrux would be activated and the person will live with another piece of its soul in his body....

I fail to remember where in the book it's said this would be a possibility.....

[CelestLBeing]

Originally Posted by Dedalus Diggle

In the 'Identifying Hiorcruxes' thread a post made me wonder this: what would happen if someone who has a horcrux (or two or ...) gets the dementors kiss? The soul can't 'go to the beyond' so is it aware of being digested for eternity?

To know for sure we would need to know what exactly happens with souls the dementors suck out. Are they digested for an eternity or do they go to the beyond? If they are normally digested for an eternity I would think it would be the same as it is for someone without a horcrux. The only difference I see is the amount of soul the dementors suck out, Voldemorts tiny little soul bit wouldn't even be a snack.

[mysterious]

Originally Posted by Alastor D

I fail to remember where in the book it's said this would be a possibility.....

Should have clarified, I mixed the truth and the possibility. What I meant was when a person is killed his Horcrux is activated which prevents him from leaving the face of Earth. Similarly if his soul is taken up, I think his horcrux should get activated and prevent him from living a soul less life, the one that Barty Crouch Jr. lived. I mean part of soul is still better than no soul.

Originally Posted by CelestLBeing

Voldemorts tiny little soul bit wouldn't even be a snack.

[MrSleepyHead]

Perhaps, instead of creating a long discussion in this thread, you may want to continue discussion here: Can a dementor suck the soul out of a Horcrux?.

Personally, I think that dementors can only suck the soul out of living objects, and thus the dementors would not be able to suck the soul out of a Horcrux. For my support, when Lupin describes them in PoA he tells Harry how they feed on human emotions, etc., and later he says that, after the Dementor's Kiss, it leaves the victim alive, but soulless.

[mysterious]

Originally Posted by MrSleepyHead

Perhaps, instead of creating a long discussion in this thread, you may want to continue discussion here

Thanks for the link, but we weren't discussing Dementors sucking soul out of the Horcruxes. So thought it better to continue here.

Anyways, I had a question....can somebody, who polyjuices into Tonks, become a Metamorphmagus till they are impersonating Tonks?

[Nicole]

Originally Posted by mysterious

can somebody, who polyjuices into Tonks, become a Metamorphmagus till they are impersonating Tonks?

I don't believe there is any solid canon for that one. Since there is only the one Metamorphmagus thus far in the series, and no one seems to have impersonated her via polyjuice, there just isn't any evidence available.

[GodricHollow]

I'd say no. I always thought that by polyjuicing someone, you take their appearence and voice characteristics, that's it. You don't get any skills of the person you have polyjuiced.

[Runes]

Originally Posted by mysterious

Anyways, I had a question....can somebody, who polyjuices into Tonks, become a Metamorphmagus till they are impersonating Tonks?

I think it would be possible. The body would still have the ability to metamorph. However, since the person impersonating her wouldn't know how to do that, they'd have real trouble and would have to learn how to metamorph from the very beginning.

[mysterious]

Originally Posted by GodricHollow

I'd say no. I always thought that by polyjuicing someone, you take their appearence and voice characteristics, that's it. You don't get any skills of the person you have polyjuiced.

But polyjuicing into someone isn't plastic surgery that you wouldn't occupy the characteristics of the person. Magic is involved...moreover when Harry and Ron impersonated Crabbe and Goyle they had taken their voice, their habbits, almost everything that they possessed, so why not the magical abilities?