Little questions Answered v9

[RinkyDink]

Barty Crouch Jr said that before he turned into Madeye he had to do alot of research about him so that he could fool even Dumbledore. When someone uses polyjuice they are taking on their physical traits. They do not have the memories or experiences of that person. Barty Jr didn't have Moody's wooden leg or magical eye, he had to get those things from Moody. I don't see what habits that Harry and Ron took on of Crabbe and Goyle. They just acted like they have seen Crabbe and Goyle act. That is the same thing Barty had to do. Learn Moody's habits, like only drinking from his hip flask.

[mysterious]

Originally Posted by RinkyDink

Barty Crouch Jr said that before he turned into Madeye he had to do alot of research about him so that he could fool even Dumbledore. When someone uses polyjuice they are taking on their physical traits. They do not have the memories or experiences of that person. Barty Jr didn't have Moody's wooden leg or magical eye, he had to get those things from Moody. I don't see what habits that Harry and Ron took on of Crabbe and Goyle. They just acted like they have seen Crabbe and Goyle act. That is the same thing Barty had to do. Learn Moody's habits, like only drinking from his hip flask.

Well memories are something they couldn't have attained seeing that they were not occupying the body, but traits...and powers...

[HedwigOwl]

Originally Posted by RinkyDink

Barty Crouch Jr said that before he turned into Madeye he had to do alot of research about him so that he could fool even Dumbledore. When someone uses polyjuice they are taking on their physical traits. They do not have the memories or experiences of that person. Barty Jr didn't have Moody's wooden leg or magical eye, he had to get those things from Moody. I don't see what habits that Harry and Ron took on of Crabbe and Goyle. They just acted like they have seen Crabbe and Goyle act. That is the same thing Barty had to do. Learn Moody's habits, like only drinking from his hip flask.

Agreed. You get the physical characteristics, but that's it. Mannerisms, history and habits would have to be studied ahead of time. But given that most people believe what they see, it would be fairly easy to fool Malfoy for a short length of time. But as Dumbledore's not ordinary and was a life-long friend of Moody, Crouch had to make sure to get everything right.

mysterious - Their voice change is a physical characteristic, they would have the same vocal chord structure as the person they're changing into.

[anabel]

Originally Posted by MrsLupin

How large are fireplaces in Britain? Characters always "step out of the fireplace" when using floo powder. But in America, our firplaces are only about 1 meter tall. How can a fully grown person fit?

Only stately homes have fireplaces that big. I guess wizards mostly have specially built ones, since we don't read that the fireplace magically expanded as the Floo powder was sprinkled on.

[Loocie]

Originally Posted by HedwigOwl

Agreed. You get the physical characteristics, but that's it. Mannerisms, history and habits would have to be studied ahead of time. But given that most people believe what they see, it would be fairly easy to fool Malfoy for a short length of time. But as Dumbledore's not ordinary and was a life-long friend of Moody, Crouch had to make sure to get everything right.

mysterious - Their voice change is a physical characteristic, they would have the same vocal chord structure as the person they're changing into.

Then how come Ron and Harry had their own voices when they polyjuiced themselves into Crabbe and Goyle? (Or is that just a movie thing?)

[CelestLBeing]

Originally Posted by Loocie

Then how come Ron and Harry had their own voices when they polyjuiced themselves into Crabbe and Goyle? (Or is that just a movie thing?)

That was only in the movie. In the book not only did they have Crabbe and Goyle's voices Harry didn't need his glasses either.

[mysterious]

Originally Posted by HedwigOwl

Mannerisms, history and habits would have to be studied ahead of time.

I guess you are right, because if I remember well Harry had told Ron something about what Goyle did and Ron wasn't doing it right.

[Runes]

Originally Posted by mysterious

I guess you are right, because if I remember well Harry had told Ron something about what Goyle did and Ron wasn't doing it right.

Yes, it was something to the effect of:

Harry: Don't swing your arms around like that.
Ron: Eh?
Harry: Crabbe holds them sort of stiff.
Ron: Okay, how's this.

Anyway, to answer your original question about whether or not someone can metamorph using Tonks body, we'll first have to agree on whether magic resides in the body or in the soul If its in the body, then metamorphing is possible, but the imposter would have to learn from scratch how to do that. And if magic resides in the soul... then they won't be able to metamorph at all.

[mysterious]

Originally Posted by Runes

but the imposter would have to learn from scratch how to do that

Metamorphmagi can't be learned.

So I guess it is the soul.

No wonder the Dementors are so powerful a magical creature, seeing that they have magical souls in their...er...proteins.

[Runes]

Originally Posted by mysterious

Metamorphmagi can't be learned.

No no no, you're misunderstanding. Of course MMs (the word is too long!) are born and not made. But when one is born.. just as how a baby learns how to talk, she would have to gain knowledge of how to control this MM ability of hers. Meaning, that if its an imposter, and the ability to metamorph is in the body, they would have to gain knowledge of how to control it just as Tonks had figured it out herself.

I think its been said that magic is in the blood, so we can safely deduct that magic is in the body and not in the soul, otherwise all the ghosts would be doing magic

[anabel]

Imagine the moment you discover your baby is a Metamorphmagus!!! You come back to the cot and there is a different baby there than the one you left! Maybe it doesn't develop until later in life, though. And perhaps it only develops gradually. But since we know children don't have full control of their magical abilities, it's quite likely that a little Metamorphmagus would change appearance when they were frightened or angry!

[Runes]

Originally Posted by anabel

it's quite likely that a little Metamorphmagus would change appearance when they were frightened or angry!

like Harry changed his hair once - of course, that was probably just a hair-growth charm or something, since Jo's already told us Harry isn't a metamorphmagus.

Imagine Little Tonks being scolded for not doing her chores. What if she wished she had more hands to play and work with at the same time, and suddenly more hands appeared??

Little-Tonks: *astounded* Mommy, I have more hands!
Andromeda: *without looking* That's nice, dear.
Little-Tonks: I'll do my chores now. *does random cleaning work with a couple of hands, while simultaneously reading a comic book.* This is so much fun!
Andromeda turns around, screams and faints.....

[Annett]

Originally Posted by anabel

Imagine the moment you discover your baby is a Metamorphmagus!!! You come back to the cot and there is a different baby there than the one you left! Maybe it doesn't develop until later in life, though. And perhaps it only develops gradually. But since we know children don't have full control of their magical abilities, it's quite likely that a little Metamorphmagus would change appearance when they were frightened or angry!

Imagine the jolt it gives to the parents when they look at the cot. I hope for the parents that small kids couldn`t turn their appearance.

[anabel]

Originally Posted by Runes

Imagine Little Tonks being scolded for not doing her chores. What if she wished she had more hands to play and work with at the same time, and suddenly more hands appeared??

Now that is an interesting idea, but are you sure Metamorphmagi can do that? We've only seen Tonks changing her appearance, not giving herself extra body parts!!!

[Annett]

We have ever seen her only as a woman when she changed her appearance. Some times she was a older woman, some times we saw her changing her nose or the colour of her hair. Therefore I doubt you can give yourself extra body parts.

[PotterFreak0515]

Um... maybe I'm just feeling tired (it's like 6 in the morning), but how does the boggart spell work? I was just reading a fanfic and I was reminded of how the Riddikulus thing acts in two different ways. There's the thing Remus taught the third years in PoA, but sometimes he just makes it disappear (like after Molly tries to get rid of it). Why doesn't he have to laugh or whatever?

[mysterious]

Originally Posted by anabel

You come back to the cot and there is a different baby there than the one you left

I don't think that when you metamorph your appearance changes a whole lot....neither do they change gender or grow body parts, I don't think that the metamorphs are like Mystic from X-Men, they are just a milder version of her.

[Freaky]

Originally Posted by anabel

Now that is an interesting idea, but are you sure Metamorphmagi can do that? We've only seen Tonks changing her appearance, not giving herself extra body parts!!!

We haven't any canon proof that she can't, it's never been said. We can only assume that the only things she can change into are women...if it was possible to morph into anything, then she could become an octopus if she wanted to ... thus more hands! But I would agree that she has to stay a woman, and only change certain physical attributes.

As to Harry and Ron taking on Crabbe and Goyle's appearance...remember the line "it's weird seeing "whichever" think!

But I really don't think that if someone polyjuiced themselves into Tonk that they would get the morphing ability, they would simply look like the Tonks in HBP - normal.

Originally Posted by PotterFreak0515

Um... maybe I'm just feeling tired (it's like 6 in the morning), but how does the boggart spell work? I was just reading a fanfic and I was reminded of how the Riddikulus thing acts in two different ways. There's the thing Remus taught the third years in PoA, but sometimes he just makes it disappear (like after Molly tries to get rid of it). Why doesn't he have to laugh or whatever?

I think this is to do with the skill that wizard has. I don't think it's really necessary to physically laugh at a boggart, but you can't let what it's changing into affect your own mood. The reason why it would be taught with laughing is because this is easier to imagine, and do. Even if you don't feel very happy the simple fact you are laughing, or pretending to laugh so long as you are convincing, would be enough to confuse the boggart.

I think the spell relies on your ability to not get caught up in the fear it is portraying, which you would be able to do in best circumstances. For Molly her fear was at the forefront of her mind, it was a very real worry therefore she was not able to look beyond that fear. Lupin can deal with his fear more effectively because it's something he's feared for a long time (in this instance) and he can face his fears.

[mysterious]

Originally Posted by Freaky

The reason why it would be taught with laughing is because this is easier to imagine, and do.

I agree with that, it is just an aid that help banishing the boggart, and not a necessary evil. Remus is trained enough to imagine something amusing and hence banish the boggart with the spell only.

[gottriplets]

Well I'm going to ask some questions that I've been wondering about (I don't know if they've been asked before). At the risk of sounding stupid, I'll try again. I must be a masochist. They should start a thread called..Really dumb questions answered! I've also noticed the number of posts we are up to on this thread, if they start a v10, I'm going to repeat this one..if you don't mind.

1. How do you think Tom Riddle found the cave? Especially since he had to go quite far away from the others.

The Cave US pg 555 They brought the kids from the orphanage here? asked Harry, who could not imagine a less cozy spot for a day trip. "Not here precisely," said Dumbledore. "There is a village of sorts about halfway along the cliffs behind us.

2. How did he get Amy and Dennis down the rock to the cave? After all;

The Cave US page 556 ]No muggle could reach this rock unless they were uncommonly good mountaineers, and boats cannot approach the cliffs, the waters around them are too dangerous. I imagine that Riddle climbed down; magic would have served better than ropes.

Tom didn't have a wand..wonder how he manage it? He probably was only about 10 years old.

And he brought two children with him, probably for the pleasure of terrorizing them.

Why did DD say probably? DD knew the kids were taken to the cave.

HBP The Secret Riddle US pg 268 well, Amy Benson and Dennis Bishop were never quite right Afterwards, and all we ever got out of them was that they'd gone into a cave with Tom Riddle. He swore they'd just gone exploring

3. We know that DD said Tom had to return to the orphanage

HBP US pg 268 He will have to return here, at the very least, every summer.

Why did DD "say at the least"? Did DD know that he might have to go back more? Plus why would he have to return..was there some type of protection on him? Dippet was the headmaster then and he was considering letting Tom stay after a few years of schooling (but of course he couldn't because the CoS was opened and they were going to send the kids home early if the culprit wasn't caught *paraphrased*)

I have some more questions, but I'll wait and ask them in a while..so this post doesn't become a novel.